Re: [weirds] [Regops] Search Engines Indexing RDAP Server Content

"Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> Fri, 29 January 2016 17:31 UTC

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From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>
To: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>, "weirds@ietf.org" <weirds@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [weirds] [Regops] Search Engines Indexing RDAP Server Content
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2016 17:31:21 +0000
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Subject: Re: [weirds] [Regops] Search Engines Indexing RDAP Server Content
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Levine [mailto:johnl@taugh.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 12:24 PM
> To: weirds@ietf.org
> Cc: Hollenbeck, Scott
> Subject: Re: [weirds] [Regops] Search Engines Indexing RDAP Server
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> >We have a difference of opinion, because I tend to think that it's a
> *good* idea to restrict access
> >to *some* data based on a client's identify and level of
> authorization. I do not want *my* PII
> >appearing in search engine search results because it's accessible via
> RDAP.
> 
> Sorry, but I really don't understand what you want here.  There have
> been vertical WHOIS search engines forever that let you search WHOIS
> data in various ways.  Most of them charge money, but as often as not
> some access is free.  That horse left the barn a decade ago.
> 
> The stuff that search engines can see is exactly the same as what
> casual users see.  If you're saying that you want to make some stuff
> unavailable to anyone who doesn't have a password, OK, but now aren't
> you running into the whole ICANN mess of what's in WHOIS and what
> isn't?

Yes, definitely. I see little point in deploying RDAP if all we get is JSPON-encoded WHOIS data. We have a tool that let's us fix the whole "all data visible to everyone" problem. We should try to use it.

Scott