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Re: [weirds] [Regops] Search Engines Indexing RDAP Server Content

"Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> Fri, 29 January 2016 16:54 UTC

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From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>
To: John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>, "weirds@ietf.org" <weirds@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [weirds] [Regops] Search Engines Indexing RDAP Server Content
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Subject: Re: [weirds] [Regops] Search Engines Indexing RDAP Server Content
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: weirds [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John R
> Levine
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 11:48 AM
> To: weirds@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [weirds] [Regops] Search Engines Indexing RDAP Server
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> > So I saw a tweet from Gavin Brown (@GavinBrown) that describes how
> one
> > particular search engine has indexed the RDAP server of a gTLD
> registry
> > operator:

[snip]

> The big search engines spider at low speed from hosts all over the
> world
> to avoid overloading the sites they index.  You're not going to keep
> them
> out via authentication without also keeping out everyone else who
> doesn't
> have a password.  I don't think that's a good idea.

We have a difference of opinion, because I tend to think that it's a *good* idea to restrict access to *some* data based on a client's identify and level of authorization. I do not want *my* PII appearing in search engine search results because it's accessible via RDAP.

Scott

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