Re: [weirds] Basis for BOF request for Taipei

Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Thu, 29 September 2011 19:06 UTC

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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:09:03 -0400
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Subject: Re: [weirds] Basis for BOF request for Taipei
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 08:59:54PM +0200, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
> > Perhaps change point 1 to something like this:
> > 
> >   1.  Complete support for internationalization of queries and
> >     responses, including a standard representation for IDNs and
> >     non-ASCII text in queries and responses, and ways to indicate
> >     language preferences for responses.
> > 
> > It seems to me that the likely outcome there is use UTF-8 everywhere,
> > give or take some rules about when to use U-labels or A-labels.
> 
> Couldn't the "language preferences" be expressed in terms of charsets
> as well?  I don't think we need to distinguish between en-UK and
> en-US, albeit most of us would prefer ASCII over Greek if available.

Perhaps "language or character set preferences for responses.  One of
the tasks of the WG will be to determine whether language, character
set, or both is the correct granularity to use."?

I'm currently doing some work for ICANN on their variant issues
project, and I have to say that this topic is an even bigger swamp
than I thought it was going in, so I do think some consideration is
going to be important here.  At bottom, though, we're going to want to
decide whether we want to use language tags or whether we just want to
indicate what script(s) we can handle.

A

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