Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap-query-00.txt
"John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> Tue, 01 May 2012 15:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap-query-00.txt
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> While I can see the usefulness of such an information in specific criminal investigations, I think the registry or registrar could provide this information out of band to the relevant law enforcement authorities, when asked properly. > > As mentioned already, IP addresses are considered as personal data under some jurisdictions. That horse left the barn a decade ago. If you sign up for zone file access, you get all of the name servers and all of the IPs. This feature would just make it available to people who aren't able to download and index the entire multi-gigabyte .COM zone file. In the unlikely event that there are legal constraints on the data that a registrar returns, they'll always be able to return an error code that means "we can't answer that question." Regards from someone who does download and index the .COM zone file, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
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- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Francisco Obispo
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Dave Piscitello
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Eric Brunner-Williams
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- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Byron Ellacott
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… James Mitchell
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Antoin Verschuren
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Dave Piscitello
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Dave Piscitello
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Dave Piscitello
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Patrick Vande Walle
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Don Blumenthal
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Michael Young
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Michael Young
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Dave Piscitello
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Arturo Servin
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Arturo Servin
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Kaveh Ranjbar
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… John R. Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… John R. Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… SM
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Dave Piscitello
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Antoin Verschuren
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Arturo Servin
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Arturo Servin
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Arturo Servin
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Byron Ellacott
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Linlin Zhou
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Eric Brunner-Williams
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- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Ray Bellis
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Patrick Vande Walle
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-hollenbeck-dnrd-ap… Eric Brunner-Williams
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- Re: [weirds] Scope and guiding principles (was Re… Arturo Servin
- [weirds] Query Parameters Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [weirds] Query Parameters Ray Bellis
- Re: [weirds] Scope and guiding principles (was Re… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [weirds] Lookups vs Searches (was Re: I-D Act… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] Scope and guiding principles (was Re… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] Query Parameters Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] Lookups vs Searches (was Re: I-D Act… Luis Diego Espinoza S.
- Re: [weirds] Query Parameters Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [weirds] Query Parameters Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [weirds] Query Parameters Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] Query Parameters Hollenbeck, Scott
- Re: [weirds] Lookups vs Searches (was Re: I-D Act… Hugo Salgado
- Re: [weirds] Scope and guiding principles (was Re… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] Scope and guiding principles (was Re… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] Query Parameters John Levine
- Re: [weirds] Scope and guiding principles (was Re… Francisco Arias
- Re: [weirds] Query Parameters Francisco Arias
- Re: [weirds] Query Parameters Steve Sheng
- Re: [weirds] Query Parameters Eric Brunner-Williams
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- Re: [weirds] Query Parameters Frederico A C Neves
- Re: [weirds] Scope and guiding principles (was Re… Antoin Verschuren
- Re: [weirds] Query Parameters Antoin Verschuren
- Re: [weirds] Scope and guiding principles Jim Galvin
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