Re: Request for well-known URI: est

Peter Saint-Andre <> Sat, 17 August 2013 02:50 UTC

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On 8/16/13 8:39 PM, Barry Leiba wrote:
>>>> I'd be happy to raise this issue on the apps-discuss list, unless the
>>>> application area directors tell me that's not the right place.
>>> I'm not at all sure what the issue is.
>>> Is it, "We don't like .well-known [and/or we don't know why we should
>>> be using it" ?  Or is there something else here?
>> Previously described:
> Ah.
> No, I hadn't seen that.  I agree with Mark on the interpretation, and
> that's the advice I had given to Sean.

The IANA Considerations section of the EST spec says:

   IANA is to update the well-known URI registry with the following
   filled-in template from [RFC5785].

      URI suffix: est

      Change controller: IETF

That doesn't cover what it needs to cover, i.e., the kind of information
mentioned in RFC 5785:

   Typically, a registration will reference a specification that defines
   the format and associated media type to be obtained by dereferencing
   the well-known URI.

   It MAY also contain additional information, such as the syntax of
   additional path components, query strings and/or fragment identifiers
   to be appended to the well-known URI, or protocol-specific details
   (e.g., HTTP [RFC2616] method handling).

None of that "additional information" is in the registration request, so
it's not clear to me that IANA will have the information it needs to
properly process this registration.

> apps-discuss would be a fine place to chat about that.

I'll raise the more general issue there.


Peter Saint-Andre