Re: [Manycouches] IETF109 starts at noon (local time)

Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 20 October 2020 19:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Manycouches] IETF109 starts at noon (local time)
From: Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 12:16:47 -0700
Cc: Tim Chown <tjc.ietf@gmail.com>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Working Group Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>, manycouches@ietf.org
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Tim was talking about the possibility of registration. I understood perhaps on https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/109/ somehow. It *does* say that "IETF 109 is an online meeting with sessions from 05:00 to 11:00 UTC/ 12:00 to 18:00 ICT each day", so the data is there - but I for one find it a little hard to digest - what is that in my time zone, and how does it relate to bedtime? I'm thinking out loud, and Tim would have to say whether it helped him, but maybe a little bit HTML code that let you select the timezone of interest and did the conversion?

Personally, my thought process was a little different. As a working group chair, I'm either going to be there or make some other arrangements. If I were flying to Thailand, the fact that ICT is UTC+7 and therefore 14 hours ahead of PST (UTC-7) wouldn't make much difference. So I decided to "be there" for some definition of "there", and went from that.

> On Oct 20, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim -
> 
> Advertising, as you suggest, isn't easy. Alissa _did_ send a note to IETF announce with the expected hours several weeks ago (as soon as was reasonable I think, awaiting the decision to be online). See <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/87UYVTTrxUNzTKDzpfhKZq3NYyk>.
> 
> Where could that have been sent/put that would have been easier for you to see?
> 
> RjS
> 
> On 10/20/20 8:20 AM, Tim Chown wrote:
>>> On 18 Oct 2020, at 01:23, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> please take followups to manycouches@ only.
>>> 
>>> On 2020-10-17, at 02:23, Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> wrote to wgchairs:
>>>> It appears that session are scheduled starting at 05:00 UTC, which would be
>>>> 12:00(noon) Bangkok time.   It's really as if this meeting was being
>>>> held in Madrid.
>> This is a little surprising. I may not be the only person who didn’t plan to attend IETF 109 on the assumption the meetings would start at 2am or 3am UTC.   It would be helpful if for future meetings the planned meeting hours are advertised more clearly well in advance.
>> 
>> Tim
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