Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting survey
Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Tue, 03 September 2024 15:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting survey
From: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
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Wes, > On Sep 3, 2024, at 6:09 AM, Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net> wrote: > > Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> writes: > >> That's not my proposal. We are, as Kyle noted, adults. But in some >> cases it may also be helpful to facilitate the discussion a little >> better, particularly with long mic lines. > > Things used to be a bit better when we had active jabber scribes that > were watching the chat. Chairs (myself included) have slipped away from > this responsibility, and it may be time to attract a specific person to > monitor the chat. I know that some have said the chairs should be doing > this, but it is often hard to watch carefully as a chair while > simultaneously monitoring the room, the virtual room, the queue, the > agenda, the clock, the etc. > I have also found it hard to monitor the chat and all of the other things you mention when chairing. When I do, sometimes it is on topic, sometimes it’s still discussing the previous presentation, sometimes it’s on some tangent. I like the idea of having someone in the room monitoring it and bringing issues to the room. Or perhaps better, asking people to bring their issue to the meeting queue. I think there is some validity to Elliot’s point that it can become its own meeting. Much like we sometimes see on w.g. mailing lists where discussion stop discussing the document, and is about the email comments themselves. It easier to read the thread, than the document :-( Bob
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-m… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-m… Tim Wicinski
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-m… Michael Richardson
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Paul Wouters
- Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-m… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Eliot Lear
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Michael Richardson
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Kyle Rose
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… joel jaeggli
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Eliot Lear
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Eliot Lear
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Carsten Bormann
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Greg Wood
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Deb Cooley
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Christian Hopps
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Bob Hinden
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Warren Kumari
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Wes Hardaker
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Jay Daley
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 V… Tommy Jensen
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Marc Blanchet
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Alexander Stein
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Toerless Eckert
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Jay Daley
- Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-m… Jay Daley
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Alexander Stein
- Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-m… Salz, Rich
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Jon Geater
- Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-m… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouv… Deen, Glenn (Comcast Cable)
- RE: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Susan Hares
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Donald Eastlake
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Wes Hardaker
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Tero Kivinen
- Chair slides templates - Re: Feedback from IETF 1… Toerless Eckert
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Kent Watsen
- Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting sur… Jay Daley
- Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-m… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 V… Deen, Glenn (Comcast Cable)
- RE: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Qin Wu
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouv… Michael Richardson
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouv… Alexander Stein
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Bob Hinden
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Warren Kumari
- Re: Chair slides templates - Re: Feedback from IE… Greg Wood
- Re: Chair slides templates - Re: Feedback from IE… Bob Hinden