Re: reception not useful for WG chairs
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sat, 18 May 2019 21:44 UTC
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Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net> wrote: > Here's a turn around question for the crowd: what would it take to make > the general reception a viable spot to meet and serve the purpose of a > pre-meeting meet-and-greet with people you need to talk with? What > could be done other than "throw out everyone I don't need to talk to", > which I don't think is a viable solution. If it's too loud, what could > we do? If it's too popular, what if we removed food/drink for the first > hour (so only the dedicated showed up)? What if we held it in a bigger > room? What if we had per-topic/area group-tables? What *would* work? This is why I changed the subject :-) 1) I think that removing food/drink is not the right direction. Spreading it out so that it's not all gone during the first hour would help me better. There are usually lines. I don't like standing in lines when I could be talking/drinking. Given that we have lines, let's harness them rather than banish them. Have the line go through some standing tables the way that good stores make use of banking lines to sell you chips and USB charge cables you didn't know you needed. Put ADs at those tables. Supply ADs with food via waiter. 2) I objected to HotRFC overlapping the second hour of the reception. Others objected to my objection, maybe because for them, the reception was already useless, and they saw no point in dragging out the pain. But, I think that also goes in the wrong direction, and that removes many people that you'd like to talk to from the reception. 3) Don't close the room at 7pm. That usually doesn't happen, we don't get kicked out, but the bar usually does pack up. 4) Consider if we should start slightly later than 5pm... 5) noise. can we do this in a few, connected smaller rooms rather than one huge room? Can we hang carpets? That's what they did for noise (and heat) in medival castles.. So it's very much hotel/conference facility dependant,alas. (this is why it is nice to keep going back to the same hotels...) I was just thinking about London Metropole... spread the reception out all over the place... but no, that's *too* much decentralization. But a nice thing when we where there, was the newcomers' space basically opened upon into the bigger reception room. The alcoves in Seoul were very nice for conversation, but we didn't really harness that for the reception. If we did do this in a multitude of smaller rooms, then we could close up some rooms, but not all rooms. Back to (2), if HotRFC needs to be on Sunday, let's make it 4pm to 6pm, have it near the reception, which starts at 6pm. Maybe we want to project it from a smaller room into a bigger reception room. That should be easy given meetecho. Poster sessions: an alternative (for some people) to HotRFC may be to have a small poster session with an idea. Maybe that's too formal. I'm not sure. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
- Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF 105 Karen O'Donoghue
- Re: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Stewart Bryant
- Re: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Gorry (erg)
- RE: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Linda Dunbar
- RE: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Black, David
- reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Fred Baker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Aaron Falk
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Mary Barnes
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Benoit Claise
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Michael Richardson
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Carsten Bormann
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Jeffrey Haas
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- RE: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Black, David
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Benoit Claise
- RE: reception not useful for WG chairs BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Toerless Eckert
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Stewart Bryant
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Loa Andersson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Bob Hinden
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Marc Blanchet
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Salz, Rich
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Fred Baker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Aaron Falk
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Mary Barnes
- RE: reception not useful for WG chairs STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Wes Hardaker
- RE: reception not useful for WG chairs Black, David
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Aaron Falk
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Mary Barnes
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Toerless Eckert
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Wes Hardaker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Toerless Eckert
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Pete Resnick
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Fred Baker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Wes Hardaker