Re: IESG experiment to conduct 360-degree reviews for ADs

Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 15 October 2021 16:40 UTC

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From: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 12:40:03 -0400
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Subject: Re: IESG experiment to conduct 360-degree reviews for ADs
To: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
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While I agree with Bob that some of the questions were weirdly formulated,
I do *not* think that the experiment is a "fail".

Regards,
 Rifaat


On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 11:30 AM Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:

> Lars,
>
> I responded to the survey after I received it.   I am fine with doing
> surveys.  However this one appears to have been written with a very
> negative slant.  For example (removed the name of the AD it asked about:
>
> Q7. What best describes the quality of Internet-Drafts that XXXX XXXXX
> reviewed and submitted to IETF Last Call?
>
> I was expecting to select between answers like high quality to low
> quality, but the questions are:
>
>         More significant problems than average
>         About the same severity of probems
>         Fewer Significant problems than average
>         No opinion.
>
> It might have as well just asked “when did you stop beating your wife”.
>
> I think this survey needs to be rewritten provide for neutral answers.
> The current ones appear to assume there are problems.  It’s really bad in
> my view.
>
> So far IMHO, the experiment is a “fail”.
>
> Bob
>
>
> > On Oct 15, 2021, at 7:01 AM, IETF Chair <chair@ietf.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > the IESG has started an experiment to conduct 360-degree reviews [1] of
> current
> > Area Directors, to give them direct feedback allowing them to develop
> their
> > method of working and behaviors. The feedback is entirely anonymous and
> we are
> > not collecting tracking information. These types of IETF participants
> have been
> > asked to provide feedback on the ADs they interacted with:
> >
> > * IAB, LLC, secretariat and IESG members will receive a survey for each
> AD
> >
> > * Each working group chair will receive a survey for their responsible
> ADs
> >
> > * Shepherds of drafts that went to the ballot in the past 12 months will
> receive
> >  a survey for the responsible AD, if still active
> >
> > * Shepherds of drafts that spent any time in the AD Evaluation state in
> the past
> >  12 months will receive a survey for the responsible AD, if still active
> >
> > The IETF Secretariat will collect the responses and aggregate them as
> follows:
> > Individual survey responses will be kept anonymous. Each Area Director
> will
> > receive a summary of all responses to their survey, and the IESG as a
> whole will
> > receive a rollup of the results of all surveys. The IESG will publicly
> release
> > the aggregate result for the entire IESG.
> >
> > If this experiment provides useful input to current Area Directors, the
> IESG may
> > decide to continue 360-degree reviews in future years, possibly extend
> the
> > survey to reach more of the community, or take other actions. A
> successful
> > experiment may also lead to discussions on whether similar activities
> for IAB
> > members, Working Group chairs or other roles may be useful to undertake.
> >
> > If you have been emailed feedback forms, the IESG would appreciate your
> input
> > by Monday 25 October 2021.
> >
> > Lars Eggert
> > IETF Chair (on behalf of the IESG)
> >
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/360-degree_feedback
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