Re: WG meeting structure

"Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> Wed, 15 May 2019 17:38 UTC

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From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 13:38:19 -0400
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Subject: Re: WG meeting structure
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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Michael,

In this particular case (SFC), there was no registration fee (we had a host
who donated a conference room and coffee), we didn't have remote
participation, we had the same meetings at the IETF as always, and as
always the resulting documents were reviewed by the WG as a whole.

Another "interim" that proved useful was at IETF 101, in place of a regular
meeting earlier in the week, the DETNET WG spent Friday together from 09:30
to 14:30, using a regular IETF meeting room.

DETNET has also had several virtual interims.

So there are lots of ways to use interim meetings to get work done in
addition to the meeting during IETF week.

Cheers,
Andy


On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 1:13 PM Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
wrote:

>
> Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:
>     > We keep doing this because you can't turn people away, and tourists
> can have
>     > a legitimate reason to be in the room and have useful things to say,
> even if
>     > they're not a primary contributor.
>
> understood.... and I've been that tourist as well as benefitted from review
> From people who were not primary contributors.
>
>     > If a WG finds that it can't make technical progress during an IETF
> week, then
>     > call interim meetings, either virtual or in-person. One WG I
> participate in
>     > had a three-day in-person interim meeting and we made a huge amount
> of
>     > progress.
>
> Three questions:
> 1) did that WG have a significantly shorter, or no WG session at IETF?
> 2) was there a registration fee, and was remote attendance possible for
> this
>    three-day interim meeting?
> 3) a three-day in-person interim is a pretty big commitment, did you get
> any
>    tourists?
>
> Okay, these questions may be leading and/or rhetorical :-)
>
> My contention is that if the IETF-week meeting is not useful due to
> accomodating tourists, and we have to do something elsewhere, then that
> really means that we are paying for rooms for presentations for
> tourists^Wadhoc-cross-area-review.
>
> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
>  -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
>
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