Re: IETF 111 Preliminary Agenda

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sun, 27 June 2021 15:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: IETF 111 Preliminary Agenda
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Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
    >> Having interest in 36 WG (if I counted them correctly) and having only
    >> 5 days of meeting with 3 slots per day, i.e., 15 slots => you are
    >> doomed to have conflict of course ;-)
    >>
    >> A big constrain is the 6 hours per day when being remote.

    > So we (T2TRG) went out of the way and had an interim instead (yes,
    > before Juhannus/Midsommar :-).

    > Maybe it would help if we could qualify specific interims as “milestone
    > meeting” or some such.  To distinguish working interims (where we
    > usually discuss a single subject or a block of closely related ones)
    > from milestone, whole-WG interims (like IETF meeting slots tend to be).
    > Just a thought.

Well, the bi-weekly CORE, COSE, CBOR meetings at which you and are often
present are essentially very close to design team meetings.  Get rid of
slides, and just screen share github, and the transformation would be
complete.   Those are three sessions at IETF111 which I likely won't attend,
or won't pay as much attention to.

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