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Re: meetecho recordings and slide presentation anti-pattern

David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> Tue, 18 August 2020 20:43 UTC

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From: David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 16:43:04 -0400
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Subject: Re: meetecho recordings and slide presentation anti-pattern
To: Paul Kyzivat <paul.kyzivat@comcast.net>
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 12:10 PM Paul Kyzivat <paul.kyzivat@comcast.net>
wrote:

> On 8/17/20 12:47 PM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> > Indeed. For icing on top:
> >
> > - Please add your affiliation to your name in meetecho
> >
> > - Have the note taking tool automatically insert
> >
> >    "John Whatever (ACME corp) taking the microphone"
> >
> > That would make note taking so much easier ;-)
>
> I thought a fundamental feature of the IETF is that people participate
> as individuals rather than as representatives of some enterprise or
> organization.


True, but people are paid to attend by companies they work for and that
fact is not irrelevant to many people.

So why should affiliation be highlighted.
>

It should be up to the individual.  I don't highlight it.  It is on my
badge. But I don't put it on slides but it is on RFCs I'm involved with.


> (I cringe when I hear someone say they are speaking for XYZ.)
>

Unless you're the CEO, you really can't.


>         Thanks,
>         Paul
>
>

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