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Re: Holding an action

Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 14 May 2021 16:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: Holding an action
Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 09:06:40 -0700
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> On May 14, 2021, at 2:18 AM, Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, and I know that. My point is: there is no use telling people that they have an action without telling them what it is.
> 
> On 5/14/21, 12:12, "S Moonesamy" <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Yaron,
> At 02:01 AM 14-05-2021, Yaron Sheffer wrote:
> >As a co-author, I am marked as an "action
> >holder" with a bright red "for 35 days" on my draft [1].
> 
> There is a "discuss" from one of the Security
> Area Directors.  The usual practice in such cases
> is to discuss the "discuss" with the Area Director.
> 
> Regards,
> S. Moonesamy

I would suggest looking at the GenArt and Security reviews, find out what is behind the Security AD's "discuss", and post a new draft that he agrees addresses the issues.

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