From nobody Fri May 14 09:06:53 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wgchairs@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wgchairs@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1DC3A377D for ; Fri, 14 May 2021 09:06:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nFHTJ5tWnDIS for ; Fri, 14 May 2021 09:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pj1-x1034.google.com (mail-pj1-x1034.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1034]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 942393A358B for ; Fri, 14 May 2021 09:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pj1-x1034.google.com with SMTP id pi6-20020a17090b1e46b029015cec51d7cdso23769pjb.5 for ; Fri, 14 May 2021 09:06:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=utQCNG+5xjvB4BMcrCf4anX77hdsQ9IisY0/DmdOOpc=; b=co56TUzxPDshraHwOyKCBnNVtkqzf5vTVUDPZpPxsD8tqZ1BDu5v5A6/04UjBLQOqZ wp+YYhcED8L44pbne6cxNl/4AFSbIBy3jZFnVZupWlZrVaUdSs2DAEmkrBw5lY9Bcnb+ DGxGPGVp1o4U4cyWwAgoEJ8RGPoYn8jM7KJCE1DXRWkVM1DUcFF6C96zogSGPKFOUrUy qDefLionEduRtofoYOaToaPIgW9xdka65233vssUmCJaOW54bCUWPnlIGb8iayNeCRki yeT5n0GPDaE5lem/lUW0Xwaog3cXF6nnqLtEEHWAbP3axpu7ZulQ467pUEYscMgURm5b clBw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=utQCNG+5xjvB4BMcrCf4anX77hdsQ9IisY0/DmdOOpc=; b=MOmpzQZs6WOOnEMldWLyAPXxxV8WW4zM8jRkmkJaCEdtk1dJnG4WqnBFVhwtvQm9rs Epi5ngS3k/Gi4B7JMGjLSxR0YpIz6TNlBpSTB64j04PXziqRL6sr9CtUe5PlsDfZYKFp FPV+rm6me9XXcgHO2rfazCT22lkH9HsHaFJnkjbC0kgaahVATRbno5bTd3WMi7YDF4Kc rhq/bVYScYdNCUEFERN4HO1Ero4mC5MTHc+pTo4j47OtpU/UTEHOS7jmqyERUwU/gFux 5ndm16nZyHS527MnVnNHp5YKTXxHAnJOCY4rrEhrd487tJr8EJm5iB2wR7yKfPEk2NyZ Es/w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531e4dFZuwx15O1UY2RSdnA/+rUXWXN7m1dhiNhAOC6Evw0wX7N+ x2R3Z6GERSe8jX/kI205V34= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxwUdi7quQAfUrLoVEJl7xJ41uN0HToGigSuDw30OzJu3YiLHgXDBz7ZLx5lgnMymI/PDhVlg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:d902:b029:ef:abdc:f16c with SMTP id c2-20020a170902d902b02900efabdcf16cmr6258046plz.64.1621008403858; Fri, 14 May 2021 09:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([2600:8802:5b00:bc1::100b]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y14sm2658881pgl.21.2021.05.14.09.06.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 14 May 2021 09:06:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Baker Message-Id: <9AA7020B-8849-413A-B4EC-452A014A5D9F@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_385E64EB-2094-4F02-AA7A-D8E95318788E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.100.0.2.22\)) Subject: Re: Holding an action Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 09:06:40 -0700 In-Reply-To: <2E02B592-557A-9F48-BB26-8836ED0A08CD@hxcore.ol> Cc: S Moonesamy , "wgchairs@ietf.org" To: Yaron Sheffer References: <5FDD7FD3-FC0F-DD41-9F1A-48930BBBF22D@hxcore.ol> <6.2.5.6.2.20210514020559.0eeeefa0@elandnews.com> <2E02B592-557A-9F48-BB26-8836ED0A08CD@hxcore.ol> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.100.0.2.22) Archived-At: X-BeenThere: wgchairs@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Working Group Chairs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 16:06:51 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_385E64EB-2094-4F02-AA7A-D8E95318788E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On May 14, 2021, at 2:18 AM, Yaron Sheffer = wrote: >=20 > Yes, and I know that. My point is: there is no use telling people that = they have an action without telling them what it is. >=20 > On 5/14/21, 12:12, "S Moonesamy" wrote: >=20 > Hi Yaron, > At 02:01 AM 14-05-2021, Yaron Sheffer wrote: > >As a co-author, I am marked as an "action > >holder"=C2=9D with a bright red "for 35 days"=C2=9D on my draft [1]. >=20 > There is a "discuss" from one of the Security > Area Directors. The usual practice in such cases > is to discuss the "discuss" with the Area Director. >=20 > Regards, > S. Moonesamy I would suggest looking at the GenArt and Security reviews, find out = what is behind the Security AD's "discuss", and post a new draft that he = agrees addresses the issues. --Apple-Mail=_385E64EB-2094-4F02-AA7A-D8E95318788E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEctjlJjQmVrp9uMq7EhdRnd2GP+AFAmCeoBAACgkQEhdRnd2G P+DeDg//QGH+yoI5UCODlZM3Xsm3ycvwQLa4lciuilcCVTxLaWYxSAVp/yiouphd oOVrY3jCHtpzcr+/FawiryPkUbATlqVnC++hf5clZuHofeoeSME1Ldq0deSnibmu MSKscCHyq7lup9ByWqlh3dCtdQwA9rPPN1XCQribPlqKV8Dw3sbXTGpUFZMZR/bZ jIaUqFwrI8Z5WGFjzA0IqrzeNelwxL73XYYbo9ZsVC3bnnw+NxGwhP8w2RryJ8Ku cGekl5Qk+hpwsK6xwxCz3OT4sEmV73+g+y2tMGnTVq5jHAU/9OaoB3/E78FTDvtk W8F0JH2YY+giNHcQiaG5mSnomRCmZJ6vnHhW9krjZE0VSO90VE07Qtx/C8TwtAXZ 5aac2PZWQnTgd6G29zqm0Y8NCwJqHEr8+QKf2SyFxT3FFHEszYqhyPrULdq63LI7 4yOHIs4e+qWYrRRiVSt6GeJMcv5v7by2xamGvIb5bx+u/hkSg0c4xQRK+8FXMjyR 85j800a3HWnYfJFRIFvGlTkZJoqiWQlRwZQYIXaot2BHuWjSOpXOPw4SnMaYgHfH kElNJ3NUdtD9d6crZeYXpNHK6d2yJeamVrF1Tbt6DIo3uWVsifWrY2gPR6JTpszy ic1dnpAQt9QsoHu6kSGITlmoc4SLH88fMWcD0sgJyAh9JXhYi74= =+E16 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_385E64EB-2094-4F02-AA7A-D8E95318788E--