Re: Proposed IESG statement on referencing documents behind a paywall

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Thu, 13 June 2019 14:24 UTC

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From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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Subject: Re: Proposed IESG statement on referencing documents behind a paywall
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Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
    >> "If you would like to review this document and
    >> would like a copy of the [IEEE1588] reference specification, please send a
    >> note to the Responsible AD <tictoc-ads@ietf.org> and the tictoc working
    >> group chairs <tictoc-chairs@ietf.org> and we will provide you a copy of
    >> the document."

    > Maybe the easiest way would be to find someone friendly at IEEE to sponsor a
    > corporate account at IEEE or the like to enable this.

And how does having this support permission-less innovation?

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