Re: 2hr sessions and agendas
"Gorry (erg)" <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> Sun, 16 January 2022 09:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: 2hr sessions and agendas
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I am pleased the IESG are looking and thinking about this… > On 15 Jan 2022, at 23:06, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote: > > > IETF Agenda <agenda@ietf.org> wrote: >> Requests for more than two hours of total meeting time are unlikely to >> succeed. In special cases, you may request more than two hours of >> meeting time, but the IESG will likely request a rationale, and >> scheduling pressure may still make it impossible to grant any >> additional meeting slots. Please see this email from the IESG [2] for >> more detailed guidance on how to structure your session requests. > > I want to start by thanking the IESG for being more rigorous here. > > I would like the IESG to encourage any WG asking for 2hr (or more) present a clear > agenda for the time usage, and that no more than 50% that time be for > presentations and/or status updates. > The bulk of the time should be for discussion, ideally relating to identified > issues. I don't think that this is a new request, I just think it's worth repeating. > > I'd like to suggest that we have no 2hr slots (like we did on Thursday at > IETF112), and that all requests for 2hrs be turned into two requests for 1hr. > > Even if I don't get to travel in the end, I'm excited for 113. > > -- > ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ > ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect [ > ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [ > My 2c: I have chaired many sessions over the years and I have observed the variety of ways working groups can use sessions depending on the needs of the group. Suggesting ways that might work is definitely good - I would really be against mandating a specific standard format - and urge ADs to talk to each group to see what they may best do. Gorry
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