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Re: reception not useful for WG chairs

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Fri, 17 May 2019 03:06 UTC

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Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 05:06:36 +0200
From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org>
Cc: wgchairs@ietf.org, Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net>
Subject: Re: reception not useful for WG chairs
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On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 04:13:49PM -0400, Christian Hopps wrote:
> 
> Black, David <David.Black@dell.com> writes:
> 
> > > What if we had per-topic/area group-tables?

I thought i saw subject signs on tables at a newcomer reception recently. No ?

> > That would be a good move, perhaps for just the first part of the reception..
> 
> Right, so that's very similar to my minimal change suggestion:
> 
> - Rename "Newcomers" to "Leadership Reception (open)", convert to cash bar, give leadership a couple free drink tickets to incentivize attendance.

"IETF Q&A Reception (open)"

Whats the suggested booze incentive you where thinking of ? Allow leadership
to get drunk or "Ask me a question and you may win a booze voucher" ?

Cheers
   Toerless

> Thanks,
> Chris.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Thanks, --David
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: WGChairs <wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Wes Hardaker
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 1:31 PM
> > > To: STARK, BARBARA H
> > > Cc: 'Working Group Chairs'
> > > Subject: Re: reception not useful for WG chairs
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
> > > 
> > > "STARK, BARBARA H" <bs7652@att.com> writes:
> > > 
> > > > The email that told us the newcomers reception would be discontinued
> > > > said this was because the speed-mentoring session was perceived as
> > > > being far more valuable/useful and it wasn't necessary to have
> > > > both.
> > > 
> > > Yes, and no to the above.  Functionally, it was serving two
> > > purposes: 1) the original purpose: allowing newcomers to meet up with
> > > chairs and ADs, 2) its transformed purpose: allowing chairs and ADs to
> > > meet up with chairs and ADs.
> > > 
> > > It's intended original purpose was #1, and it seems the consensus is
> > > that #2 is what everyone is saying they're missing with lots of points
> > > about what the general reception can't be used.  However, the problem
> > > that #1 wasn't meeting it's purpose is mostly unrelated to the
> > > quick-connections session.  The purpose was still not being met,
> > > regardless.
> > > 
> > > Here's a turn around question for the crowd: what would it take to make
> > > the general reception a viable spot to meet and serve the purpose of a
> > > pre-meeting meet-and-greet with people you need to talk with?  What
> > > could be done other than "throw out everyone I don't need to talk to",
> > > which I don't think is a viable solution.  If it's too loud, what could
> > > we do?  If it's too popular, what if we removed food/drink for the first
> > > hour (so only the dedicated showed up)?  What if we held it in a bigger
> > > room?  What if we had per-topic/area group-tables?  What *would* work?
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Wes Hardaker
> > > USC/ISI
> 



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