Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting survey
Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 02 September 2024 16:53 UTC
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From: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2024 12:52:51 -0400
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Subject: Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting survey
To: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
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Kathleen, On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 12:42 PM Kathleen Moriarty < kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you, Jay. > > The summary is helpful. I'm going to counter the first point, the chat > facilitates the flow of a meeting, enabling a level of feedback that is not > appropriate for the Mic line, yet helpful in terms of another layer of > feedback. Many contribute to it knowing that some will catch up later and > that is fine. One person is tagged with monitoring in order to bring to the > Mic line the layer needed (the person who may be remote can request the > item be stated in the Mic line. > > What I emailed Jay (dang reply/reply-all) was that we started doing in DNSOP was to include the jabber logs with the minutes (with some cleanup) so forgetful chairs like myself could grep one document. Zulip has a link that gets posted that we put in the minutes now, but I have thought of doing some json->text munging. I find it easier to have it all in one place tim This format does not work well outside of the IETF and may be an adjustment > to some new to the IETF. However, we have a lot of high-bandwidth people > involved in the IETF and this is an outlet for them to get work done > (provide review, provide feedback, engage in discussion to understand > points on a presentation another in the chat can respond to, etc.). For > many of us, the chat is very important and would not have been noted as > we've grown accustomed to it. However, this format is really hard to use > in many other settings as it is too much for a lot of people to manage both > listening and using chat. > > It is well suited to a lot of participants of the IETF and makes meetings > a bit faster so we get more accomplished. > > Best regards, > Kathleen > > On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 12:12 PM Jay Daley <exec-director@ietf.org> wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> There were a number of aspects to the feedback in the post-IETF 120 >> meeting survey that are worth highlighting and updating you on. >> >> 1. Comments that the in-session chat is a distraction. This is one we >> will monitor and possibly ask specific questions about in the next >> post-meeting survey. There was a suggestion of explicit pauses in sessions >> to allow people, particularly presenters, to catch up with the chat but I >> have no idea how practical that is. >> >> 2. Comments about managing slides and presentations, that we will pass >> on to Meetecho. >> >> 3. Comments about the use of screen space in rooms and how that can be >> improved. The meetings operations team are reviewing this and we’ll see >> what improvements we can make. >> >> As a reminder, the survey dashboard is at [1] and the last question, Q27, >> has the free form comments. >> >> cheers >> Jay >> >> >> [1] >> https://ietf.co1.qualtrics.com/results/public/aWV0Zi1VUl8zT3laRG9JQWxidUkxZ0otNjZjMzQwNWI4ZjhlYTQwMDA4Nzg5MjNi#/pages/Page_1fe9399e-cacb-4063-af49-ee1340c57993 >> >> -- >> Jay Daley >> IETF Executive Director >> exec-director@ietf.org >> >> > > -- > > Best regards, > Kathleen >
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-m… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-m… Tim Wicinski
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-m… Michael Richardson
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Paul Wouters
- Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-m… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Eliot Lear
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Michael Richardson
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Kyle Rose
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… joel jaeggli
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Eliot Lear
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Eliot Lear
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Carsten Bormann
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Greg Wood
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Deb Cooley
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Christian Hopps
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Bob Hinden
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Warren Kumari
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Wes Hardaker
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Jay Daley
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 V… Tommy Jensen
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Marc Blanchet
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Alexander Stein
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Toerless Eckert
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Jay Daley
- Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-m… Jay Daley
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Alexander Stein
- Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-m… Salz, Rich
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Jon Geater
- Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-m… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouv… Deen, Glenn (Comcast Cable)
- RE: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Susan Hares
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Donald Eastlake
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Wes Hardaker
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Tero Kivinen
- Chair slides templates - Re: Feedback from IETF 1… Toerless Eckert
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Kent Watsen
- Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting sur… Jay Daley
- Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-m… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 V… Deen, Glenn (Comcast Cable)
- RE: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Qin Wu
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouv… Michael Richardson
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouv… Alexander Stein
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Bob Hinden
- Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting… Warren Kumari
- Re: Chair slides templates - Re: Feedback from IE… Greg Wood
- Re: Chair slides templates - Re: Feedback from IE… Bob Hinden