Re: reception not useful for WG chairs

Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com> Thu, 16 May 2019 18:26 UTC

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From: Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 13:26:39 -0500
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Subject: Re: reception not useful for WG chairs
To: "Black, David" <David.Black@dell.com>
Cc: Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net>, "STARK, BARBARA H" <bs7652@att.com>, Working Group Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
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On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 1:09 PM Black, David <David.Black@dell.com> wrote:

> > What if we had per-topic/area group-tables?
>
> That would be a good move, perhaps for just the first part of the
> reception..
>
> Thanks, --David
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WGChairs <wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Wes Hardaker
> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 1:31 PM
> > To: STARK, BARBARA H
> > Cc: 'Working Group Chairs'
> > Subject: Re: reception not useful for WG chairs
> >
> >
> > [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
> >
> > "STARK, BARBARA H" <bs7652@att.com> writes:
> >
> > > The email that told us the newcomers reception would be discontinued
> > > said this was because the speed-mentoring session was perceived as
> > > being far more valuable/useful and it wasn't necessary to have
> > > both.
> >
> > Yes, and no to the above.  Functionally, it was serving two
> > purposes: 1) the original purpose: allowing newcomers to meet up with
> > chairs and ADs, 2) its transformed purpose: allowing chairs and ADs to
> > meet up with chairs and ADs.
> >
> > It's intended original purpose was #1, and it seems the consensus is
> > that #2 is what everyone is saying they're missing with lots of points
> > about what the general reception can't be used.  However, the problem
> > that #1 wasn't meeting it's purpose is mostly unrelated to the
> > quick-connections session.  The purpose was still not being met,
> > regardless.
> >
> > Here's a turn around question for the crowd: what would it take to make
> > the general reception a viable spot to meet and serve the purpose of a
> > pre-meeting meet-and-greet with people you need to talk with?  What
> > could be done other than "throw out everyone I don't need to talk to",
> > which I don't think is a viable solution.  If it's too loud, what could
> > we do?  If it's too popular, what if we removed food/drink for the first
> > hour (so only the dedicated showed up)?  What if we held it in a bigger
> > room?  What if we had per-topic/area group-tables?  What *would* work?
> >
> > --
> > Wes Hardaker
> > USC/ISI
>
>