Re: System generated chat messages during WG sessions

[Robert Sparks <[e-mail]>]

Toerless is talking about realtime, particularly in the meetecho client 
as the meeting is proceeding.

And a reminder for other parts of the thread: the chat will continue to 
preserved as its own document in the meeting materials.

RjS

On 9/5/24 2:05 PM, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> Toerless,
>
> If the autogenerated messages are in the chat and you don't like them, 
> it's really easy to run the chat through a text filter to get rid of them.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 3:00 PM Toerless Eckert <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>     On Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 02:28:59PM -0400, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
>     > Toerless,
>     >
>     > There are people that like to read the chat, or incorporate the
>     chat into
>     > the minutes, without having to watch the entire video.
>
>     That's fine. Nothing i proposed argues against it. I just don't
>     want the chat to be cluttered
>     with information about the actual primary meeting track -
>     especially because i do not want
>     to kill off asynchronous chat discuss that's explicitly NOT
>     in-sync with th primary WG
>     track.
>
>     Cheers
>         Toerless
>
>     > Cheers,
>     > Andy
>     >
>     >
>     > On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 1:58 PM Toerless Eckert <[e-mail]>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     > > My 22cents:
>     > >
>     > > I would not like for the chat to be scattered by this metadata
>     because we
>     > > should already
>     > > have an actual metadata stream in the videos: the CC (close
>     caption
>     > > track). AFAIK, all
>     > > IETF recordings on youtube have it. Seemingly some are done
>     manual/better,
>     > > most are
>     > > automatic (suck rocks - especially with non native speakers).
>     > >
>     > > Anyhow: What the IETF tooling team seemingly does not do right
>     is to
>     > > enable the youtube
>     > > transcription feature from this CC track. When i go to most other
>     > > (non-IETF) videos
>     > > with CC, then i can click on "Show Transcript" at the bottom
>     of the
>     > > youtube description.
>     > > This will then pop up the transcript - and then you can
>     scroll/search and
>     > > jump to specific
>     > > transcript points.
>     > >
>     > > Seems obvious to me, that we would want any section markers like
>     > > slides/presentations/speakers
>     > > on the microphone to be in this transcription track.
>     > >
>     > > Of course: If youtube allows multiple tracks, then it would be
>     fine to
>     > > also include the
>     > > chat as a secondary caption track. But let's not consider it
>     to be a
>     > > primary track
>     > > for the session recording.
>     > >
>     > > Cheers
>     > >     Toerless
>     > >
>     > > On Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 12:42:37PM +0100, Jay Daley wrote:
>     > > > Starting a new thread on this.
>     > > >
>     > > > Meetecho have confirmed that having the system generate chat
>     messages is
>     > > pretty straightforward so I want to ask what action points are
>     the most
>     > > useful for such a message, assuming we don’t want too many
>     such messages as
>     > > that will clutter the chat.
>     > > >
>     > > > So far we have:
>     > > >
>     > > > - When a new presentation is started so that it
>     contextualises the chat
>     > > messages after that.
>     > > >
>     > > > The only other one I can see might be useful is:
>     > > >
>     > > > - When a poll is initiated and/or closed, perhaps with the
>     result copied
>     > > to the chat.
>     > > >
>     > > > Yes/no? and any others?
>     > > >
>     > > > Jay
>     > > >
>     > > > --
>     > > > Jay Daley
>     > > > IETF Executive Director
>     > > > [e-mail]
>     > >
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