Re: Poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty please) ?

Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Tue, 27 October 2020 23:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: Poll: RFCs with page numbers (pretty please) ?
From: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
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There are several over lapping issues here.  There is PFD for different
media involved here.  Screen really is different to print.  The current
PDF is laid out for screen, the same as the HTML version is laid out for
screen.  There are internal linkages in the TOC to get to the right section
in the TOC without page numbers.  That is fine for screen.

PDF for print the TOC needs page numbers to optimally navigate to the
correct page.  Navigating by section on page headers, footers is
sub-optimal.

There really is no reason more forms can’t be produced.  Disk space is
cheap as is creating links to multiple forms [PDF screen] [PDF A4] [PDF
Letter].

For referencing we actually should consider adding paragraph numbers as
that should eliminate the perceived need for page numbers by providing
finer grained referencing.

e.g. Section [Number] Title [Paragraph <number>]

If people say page X, just push back with “section (number and title) and
paragraph please”.  People do learn.

Mark
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