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Re: Possible modification to issuing Working Group Last Calls from the datatracker

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sat, 27 September 2025 00:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: Possible modification to issuing Working Group Last Calls from the datatracker
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Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
    > I have a proposal for a change to the workflow to allow this. It's currently
    > running at:

    > https://dt-issuewglc.dev.ietf.org

logged in, tried it:

    > Please experiment with the workflow for issuing wglc for documents in your
    > WGs - start with the edit button next to stream state - the rest is hopefully
    > self explanatory.

Do you mean the Edit button next to, "WG State"?
okay, yes.  Seems nice.

I have some quibbles about the template text, particularly around the word "support".
But, I can, I see, edit that as WG chair... so meh. It's fine.

(I personally find +1s to be a waste of time, and I really do not want to
hear about how authors support the document.  But that's me.  I want to hear things
like, "I have read XXXX.  My concerns around issue BLAH are resolved")

{I also question whether we need to YET AGAIN talk about IPR}

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