Re: Closing the queue

Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 30 July 2021 23:13 UTC

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From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 18:13:09 -0500
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Subject: Re: Closing the queue
To: Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org>
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Hi, Jay,

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 6:02 PM Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org> wrote:

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> On 31/07/2021, at 10:56 AM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <
> spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 5:25 PM Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 6:33 AM Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I would suggest that one say “I’m closing the queue after <nam>”, and
>> have a way to tell meet echo that it should stop putting new people in the
>> queue.
>>
>> Actually I'd say that "hard lock" might be suboptimal - sometimes we
>> might still want people joining after the queue is closed as an
>> exception - like an AD making comments etc. In real life even after
>> the queue is closed people still can jump to the mic to respond to
>> comments etc.
>>
>
> I've been wrong before, but I THOUGHT sending audio and/or video was also
> on the honor system - I think I've been able to turn on at least audio and
> break in for at least comments before the session starts, without queuing.
> Am I missing something?
>
>
> Yes it is an honour system.  Meetecho tried a permissions system and
> nobody liked it.
>

I wonder if that makes providing some way to close queues easier, if all
you have to do is tag anyone going into the queue as "entered after closed"
- and all you personally have to do to clear that, is just pop out of the
queue.

That would let chairs let someone who was marked tardy speak, if everyone
in line in front of them is unexpectedly brief ("have you ever BEEN to the
IETF?", but that has happened to me as a chair).

Best,

Spencer

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> Jay
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> Best,
>
> Spencer
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>> Personally I'd be very happy if I can click on "closing the queue in
>> 15 secs" and the queue section goes, for example, orange  and the
>> title says "QUEUE: CLOSING". After 15 sec it goes red(*) and marked as
>> CLOSED.
>> As a result it's clearly visible for the participants that it's closed
>> and for the chairs that they need to re-open before/during the next
>> talk, white there is still possible to join it.
>>
>> (*) color examples are chosen randomly and might not accommodate
>> color-blind cases.
>>
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>> > > On Jul 29, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > While I'm very happy with Meetecho (wow, I've just managed to chair a
>> > > session single-handed!), there is one missing feature which would make
>> > > me very happy.
>> > >
>> > > Wouldn't it be great if we have a button to mark the queue "closed"?
>> > > It might be just me but I really, really hate interrupting people just
>> > > to say "I'm closing the queue after". Having smth like "The queue will
>> > > be closed in 5..4..3..2..1" would be even better..
>> > >
>> > > Is there anyone else missing this feature? Or I'm just not aware of
>> > > the best current practices in keeping the session on time?
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > SY, Jen Linkova aka Furry
>> > >
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>> --
>> SY, Jen Linkova aka Furry
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> --
> Jay Daley
> IETF Executive Director
> jay@ietf.org
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