RE: [irsg] Minutes being messed with?

"STARK, BARBARA H" <bs7652@att.com> Wed, 07 August 2019 17:23 UTC

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From: "STARK, BARBARA H" <bs7652@att.com>
To: 'Jim Fenton' <fenton@bluepopcorn.net>, "'Salz, Rich'" <rsalz@akamai.com>, 'Bob Hinden' <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
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Subject: RE: [irsg] Minutes being messed with?
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> Someone had expressed concern that requiring a datatracker login would
> make it harder to recruit notetakers. I had expected that most attendees
> who are likely notetakers already have datatracker accounts.
> 
> Does anyone know if that concern is warranted?

I've taken notes together with a person who has no datatracker account (that I know of) and (to my knowledge) has never physically attended IETF or submitted an ID. They were on Meetecho. They helped several times (multiple IETF meetings) for this specific WG. I don't think they do other WGs. It's a very small WG, with about 20 people in the room and a similar number on Meetecho. It was a big help -- especially when I got up to present.
I often experience people filling in names and correcting spelling or better expressing things that were said while I'm taking minutes. This is really helpful.

I tend to take minutes for 3 or 4 different WGs every IETF (including Bob's 6man WG, FWIW). Always on etherpad, if possible. Because of my good experience with random people helping on minutes, I'd prefer not to limit to datatracker accounts. It would be nice if people on etherpad were encouraged to put their name in etherpad (maybe encouraged by chairs at start of meeting, when mentioning notetaking). That way I might also have the ability to glare at somebody if they were doing something that interfered with notetaking. I've never had issues with people doing malicious or hard-to-recover-from bad things while I'm taking minutes. I have sometimes made etherpad notes to unknown etherpad people to suggest they do something differently or don't do something (and then delete the note after they ack). I'd like the option of using glares directed at known people, too.
Barbara