Re: WG meeting structure
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Wed, 15 May 2019 17:18 UTC
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Black, David <David.Black@dell.com> wrote: > An approach that I like is that if discussion at the microphones is > going nowhere slowly, figure out who the key participants are and > charter a design team with a near-term deadline to come back with a > preferred outcome or a set of thought-out alternatives that are > conducive to hums in a room with 100+ people ... getting to an > agreement to disagree is much easier in a small design team than in a > room with 100+ people. Yes, this is a good plan. This is why I would like every WG to have 1HR session with as few conflicts as possible, early in the week, and a second session later on in the week, after sufficient unstructured time to have hashed out a solution. Okay, so not every problem can be solved with five people, two couches and seven beers, but I'll bet that a good problem statement can be articulated in such a period of time, such that if you really need the formalism of a chartered design-team, then you at least have the text by the end of the week. > On the original topic, the U-shaped structure is interesting, but a WG > chairs table may still be needed on one side of the screen so that the > WG chairs have a complete view of the action without their backs turned > to anyone. I also want to reinforce that use of that structure needs > to be at the discretion of WG chairs. Thinking about the WGs that I > have chaired and currently chair, there have been WG meetings for which > the U-shaped structure would work well and WG meetings for which it > would have been disastrous. Care you provide some details? I have a hypothesis that the WGs in which it would not work are dysfunctional for a multitude of reasons. All the WG sessions are on youtube... I spend many days after each meeting watching the meetings I missed. Can you handle 1.5 speed? 1.75? 2x? :-) -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
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- Re: WG meeting structure Michael Richardson
- Re: WG meeting structure Michael Richardson
- RE: WG meeting structure Black, David
- Re: WG meeting structure Andrew G. Malis
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- Re: WG meeting structure Michael Richardson
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