Re: Draft "Convince your boss" note for IETF participants

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Wed, 28 September 2022 15:21 UTC

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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 17:21:15 +0200
From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Greg Wood <ghwood@staff.ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: Draft "Convince your boss" note for IETF participants
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Do noy do this specifically for London, but change the text so it can persist across IETF meetings.

Suggest not to write in first person. Sounds a bit like 10 year old kid trying to persuade mom to go to some event.

Suggest to structure into sections "value of IETF meetings for organziation" vs. "value of IETF meetings for individuals".

Mention hackathon to get hooked into communities

Mention mentoring to get hooked up with possible like-minded people.


Create (over time) example, short (2 paragraph) experience reports from individuals. For example add question about experience report to next questionaire you folks send around. 

Collect more input for this text from questionaire via:
"What information about the IETF would have made it more attractive for your boss (and you) to go to IETF in the first place" ?

And of course: "How should IETF improve to make it more useful for your organization and you" (which of course goes beyond the initial scope of this work, but threre should hopefully be a good amount of answers that ultimately help the goal.

Cheers
    Toerless

On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 10:22:14AM -0400, Greg Wood wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> As an experiment, based on material some other technology conferences provide to (potential) participants, and at the suggestion received from an IETFer, we’ve created a draft “Convince Your Boss” note that might be used by someone seeking approval to attend an IETF meeting in-person:
> 
> https://notes.ietf.org/ietf-meeting-convince-your-boss
> 
> Any and all comments about whether this might be useful to you or participants in your groups, or suggestions about how it might be tuned to be more useful, would be most welcome — either on this list or directly to me.
> 
> More broadly, it would be useful to know whether there is any specific information or material that would make it easier for IETF participants to participate in the IETF—not just meetings, but also (for example) devoting time to work in the IETF. Again, I’m happy to receive suggestions directly or on the list.
> 
> Please let me know if I can provide more information or answer any questions.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> -Greg
> 
> 
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> Greg Wood
> IETF LLC
> +1-703-625-3917

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