Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered through markdown
Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Tue, 21 September 2021 17:43 UTC
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From: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>
Subject: Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered through markdown
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On 9/21/21 11:49 AM, Toerless Eckert wrote: > Nice job already, thanks a lot, Robert & team! > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 02:29:38PM -0500, Robert Sparks wrote: >> And here we hit the issues with the different versions of markdown at >> different sites. >> >> Github markdown treats leading space differently than Gruber's markdown. > Can we please have an authoritative documentation of the markup used Right now, the authoritative documentation is at the links I sent below (into Pypi and at daringfireball). To save you a little digging, very relevant spots are at https://python-markdown.github.io/#Features and https://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax (and because I've turned on "extra" https://python-markdown.github.io/extensions/extra/ > > and a web page that will render an input text ? As a workaround for now, you can do this locally as documented here: https://python-markdown.github.io/cli/ for example: (env) rjsparks@unformal markdown % python -m markdown -x extra src.md > > That way chairs can see how a version of a charter will look that > they have fixed up with the best rendering options for their charter text. > That should minimize work for the tools team to enhance/fixup the markup. > > If we need fixups, they should be in the way of wrappers to > avoid local versioning of an actual markup, such as done with > kramdown-rfc2629. For example to convert markup for > well known names such as RFC* and draft-* into URLs. > > Cheers > Toerless > >> The relevant part of the source for the thing ending up with a different >> rendering looks like this (via hexdump -C). Best viewed in fixed width. >> >> 00000100 6c 65 64 20 62 65 6c 6f 77 3a 0a 0a 20 20 20 31 |led below:.. >> 1| >> 00000110 2e 20 54 68 65 20 66 69 72 73 74 20 61 72 65 61 |. The first >> area| >> 00000120 20 6f 66 20 77 6f 72 6b 20 69 73 20 6d 61 69 6e | of work is >> main| >> 00000130 74 65 6e 61 6e 63 65 20 61 6e 64 20 65 76 6f 6c |tenance and >> evol| >> 00000140 75 74 69 6f 6e 20 6f 66 20 74 68 65 20 65 78 69 |ution of the >> exi| >> 00000150 73 74 69 6e 67 20 51 55 49 43 20 73 70 65 63 69 |sting QUIC >> speci| >> 00000160 66 69 63 61 74 69 6f 6e 73 3a 0a 0a 20 20 20 20 |fications:.. >> | >> 00000170 20 20 20 20 20 2a 20 4d 61 69 6e 74 65 6e 61 6e | * >> Maintenan| >> 00000180 63 65 20 61 6e 64 20 65 76 6f 6c 75 74 69 6f 6e |ce and >> evolution| >> 00000190 20 6f 66 20 74 68 65 20 51 55 49 43 20 62 61 73 | of the QUIC >> bas| >> 000001a0 65 20 73 70 65 63 69 66 69 63 61 74 69 6f 6e 73 |e >> specifications| >> >> That is, there are 9 spaces before what you intend to be a bullet mark. >> >> For what's at https://pypi.org/project/Markdown/ (implementing >> https://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/) anything that starts with 4 >> or more spaces or a tab is a blockquote. >> >> Do you easily see a single input file that gets the desired output out of >> both renderers? >> >> RjS >> >> On 9/20/21 2:17 PM, Lars Eggert wrote: >>> On 2021-9-20, at 20:34, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote: >>>> Bring any issues with the markdown rendering of the current charter text to me. >>> Not my group anymore, but QUIC looks a bit odd: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/quic/about/rendertest/ >>> >>> That should be an indented bullet list under 1., as shown on https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/blob/main/charter/charter.md >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Lars >>>
- RE: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Qin Wu
- Please look at your groups' charters rendered thr… Robert Sparks
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Salz, Rich
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Lars Eggert
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Robert Sparks
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Fred Baker
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Robert Sparks
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Russ Housley
- RE: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… MORTON JR., AL
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Robert Sparks
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Henk Birkholz
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Robert Sparks
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Warren Kumari
- RE: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… MORTON JR., AL
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Martin Thomson
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Mark Nottingham
- RE: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Black, David
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Henk Birkholz
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Bob Hinden
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Toerless Eckert
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Robert Sparks
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- RE: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Ron Bonica
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Bron Gondwana
- RE: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Please look at your groups' charters rendered thr… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Barry Leiba
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Mirja Kuehlewind
- RE: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Valery Smyslov
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Robert Sparks
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Robert Sparks
- RE: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Anna Brunström
- Re: [irsg] Please look at your groups' charters r… Marie-Jose Montpetit
- RE: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Salz, Rich
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Dieter Sibold
- Re: Please look at your groups' charters rendered… Carles Gomez Montenegro