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Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com> Wed, 15 May 2019 14:54 UTC

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From: Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com>
To: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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+1.
Some “tourists” to WG are probably the ones who will use the protocols being discussed, e.g. network operators who don’t have time to participate in detailed discussions.

Linda

From: WGChairs [mailto:wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 9:14 AM
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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Subject: Re: WG meeting structure

Michael,

We keep doing this because you can't turn people away, and tourists can have a legitimate reason to be in the room and have useful things to say, even if they're not a primary contributor.

If a WG finds that it can't make technical progress during an IETF week, then call interim meetings, either virtual or in-person. One WG I participate in had a three-day in-person interim meeting and we made a huge amount of progress.

Cheers,
Andy


On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 10:02 AM Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca<mailto:mcr%2Bietf@sandelman.ca>> wrote:

STARK, BARBARA H <bs7652@att.com<mailto:bs7652@att.com>> wrote:
    > Engaged discussion to resolve open technical issues is hard to do in
    > rooms with 100+ people. Interim meetings, "unstructured time" meetings
    > (using WebEx and an iPad-as-speakerphone for remote participants),
    > working on topics that "the masses" don't care about, etc. are often
    > the best way to get such engaged discussion.

Doctor, Doctor, it's hurts when I try to resolve technical issues in a room
with 100+ people....

So, why do we keep trying to do this? It doesn't work any better with the
speakers at the front.  That is, we don't resolve issues any faster.
(Sure, the audio might be better)

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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca<mailto:mcr%2BIETF@sandelman.ca>>, Sandelman Software Works
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