RE: Holding an action

[Roman Danyliw <[e-mail]>]

Agreed.  Barry’s response was entirely correct in the general case.  The state + action holder bug highlighted by draft-ietf-acme-star-delegation-08 and now tracked in https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietfdb/ticket/3281 is that documents changing state from “IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed” to “IESG Evaluation::AD Followup” should have their corresponding Action Holders field changed from the authors to the responsible AD.

Roman

From: WGChairs <[e-mail]> On Behalf Of Daniel Migault
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 1:15 PM
To: Yaron Sheffer <[e-mail]>
Cc: [e-mail]; Robert Sparks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Holding an action

+1
Depending on the possible flows it might not be relevant, but with the one I have in mind authors might be replaced by the AD and the AD may not even appear in the first place.

Yours,
Daniel


On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 12:36 PM Yaron Sheffer <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Thank you Robert! I agree this should have happened when we submitted the new rev.

                Yaron

On 5/14/21, 19:02, "Robert Sparks" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
I think there is a bug in the new code that should remove the authors as
action holders when a new revision is submitted.

I just created https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietfdb/ticket/3281

The relevant code starts here:

https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietfdb/browser/trunk/ietf/doc/utils.py#L469

RjS

On 5/14/21 8:07 AM, Barry Leiba wrote:
> We discussed that quite a bit while I was on the IESG recently, and
> also discussed it with the tools team.  In the end, we decided that it
> can't, in general, be done automatically, and the best approach is
> that if one needs to remember what the action is, one should
> (manually) put a comment in the datatracker as a reminder (which I
> often did as AD, and which I will do as WGC when I need to).
>
> Barry
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 5:19 AM Yaron Sheffer <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>> Yes, and I know that. My point is: there is no use telling people that they have an action without telling them what it is.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/14/21, 12:12, "S Moonesamy" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Yaron,
>>
>> At 02:01 AM 14-05-2021, Yaron Sheffer wrote:
>>
>>> As a co-author, I am marked as an "action
>>> holder" with a bright red "for 35 days" on my draft [1].
>>
>>
>> There is a "discuss" from one of the Security
>>
>> Area Directors.  The usual practice in such cases
>>
>> is to discuss the "discuss" with the Area Director.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> S. Moonesamy
>>
>>
>>
>>




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