Re: Chat comments for the record...

Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> Fri, 01 April 2022 08:12 UTC

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I think It is really good to include things repeated at the Mic, where the whole WG might hear them. I have experienced cases where the chat has diverged in parallel with meeting activities and in some cases rather disruptively...  These threads seem better placed for WG mailing list discussion, rather than a minute of a meeting?

Best wishes,
Gorry

> On 31 Mar 2022, at 19:15, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> 
> One thing coming to mind as maybe a useful idea for the next IETFs
> (aka wondering what others think):
> 
> There is often useful jabber/chat discussion during WG meetings
> (and even more so interims). And merging those comments into meeting
> notes can often be a pain. And therefore often does not happen
> (i did, but then again, we had very little jabber chat).
> 
> Given how nowadays meeting participants are even more expected to have
> computer in front of them, i wonder if it would not make sense to 
> suggest to the WG participants to directly write suggestions that they
> would like to be on the record (when they cannot/wantnot make them
> on the microphone), not (only) into the chat, but directly
> into the notes.ietf.org notes as they are being taken. And of
> course suggest to prefix any such line added with name of contributor
> e.g.:
> 
> (toerless) I really think rfc7996 is a regression bug wrt. non-support for PNG in PDF
> 
> 
> Cheers
>    Toerless