Re: Please comment on your use of trac

Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net> Thu, 04 February 2021 13:53 UTC

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DPRIVE is not actively using trac. We had a few work items on the wiki a
few years back, but those are obsolete.

Brian

On 2/3/21 2:15 PM, Tim Wicinski wrote:
> We use trac in DMARC but only because I feel it's the 'standard'
> I think I've said I would pay cash money(*) to make it go away.
> 
> tim
> 
> (*) - to be paid out of my wg chairs wealth fund of course.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 11:18 AM Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
> 
>> We currently have instances of trac configured for each working group.
>> Only some are being used.
>>
>> If your group is using trac, are you using anything essentially
>> trac-specific that you find important?
>>
>> Would you be ok migrating (with help) to a different wiki system and a
>> different issue tracking system?
>>
>> The trac project itself is lagging with Python development - stable
>> still only runs on Python 2.7 and while there appears to be work towards
>> Python 3, it is not yet functional, and is not progressing quickly. We
>> are working around it by encapsulating it in docker instances running 2.7.
>>
>> I've had several people suggest we should stop supporting it, and I'd
>> like to know if that would be a particular hardship for any group.
>>
>> RjS
>>
>>
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