Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption

Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net> Mon, 13 October 2025 22:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption
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On 13 Oct 2025, at 16:56, Andrew G. Malis wrote:

> Thanks for that - you're right, it's more common practice than 
> required...

Adopting it, of course, is always done. Doing a formal call for adoption 
is most certainly not.

> ...(at least, at the moment).

That's my concern. In a contentious group, where simply deciding whether 
to take on an individual draft is controversial, probably doing a formal 
call is an important thing. Deciding to take a draft that's got 
not-much-more than section titles in a group where there's not a whole 
lot of controversy about the structure of the doc should not require 2 
days, let alone 2 weeks, for the chair to simply say, "We'll adopt 
that." And of course a call for adoption is not required for a blank 
sheet of paper; assign a document editor, tell them to submit a draft 
called draft-<wg>-foobar, and mark it as a WG draft immediately.

I think making "calls for adoption" a required formal part of the 
process is conformance-SDO nonsense that we shouldn't be "adopting" (pun 
intended) into the IETF. The tool-of-the-day should not be reason to 
make something a formal rule.

pr
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