Re: meetecho recordings and slide presentation anti-pattern

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Tue, 18 August 2020 23:07 UTC

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From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 19:06:55 -0400
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Subject: Re: meetecho recordings and slide presentation anti-pattern
To: Paul Kyzivat <paul.kyzivat@comcast.net>
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 12:10 PM Paul Kyzivat <paul.kyzivat@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On 8/17/20 12:47 PM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> > Indeed. For icing on top:
> >
> > - Please add your affiliation to your name in meetecho
> >
> > - Have the note taking tool automatically insert
> >
> >    "John Whatever (ACME corp) taking the microphone"
> >
> > That would make note taking so much easier ;-)
>
> I thought a fundamental feature of the IETF is that people participate
> as individuals rather than as representatives of some enterprise or
> organization. So why should affiliation be highlighted.

While people *do* participate as individuals, stating one's
affiliation is (or, has always seemed to me) a way to disclose your
bias and aids is in transparency.

If there is a WG meeting where 8 people all from Acme Tool And Die
arguing for a proposal and 5 people all from Yoyodyne arguing against
the proposal, I know I need to do some more digging into what's
driving this...
So, unless the company is really small, or the person is specifically
speaking *for* a company, I've always viewed the affiliation in terms
of a respectful full disclosure, not a "this is the company line".


W



>
> (I cringe when I hear someone say they are speaking for XYZ.)
>
>         Thanks,
>         Paul
>


-- 
I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
idea in the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
of pants.
   ---maf