Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org? {35440727}

David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> Wed, 10 March 2021 11:37 UTC

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From: David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 06:37:31 -0500
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Subject: Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org? {35440727}
To: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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I believe it is the IETF Administration LLC Board of Directors.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 6:17 AM Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
wrote:

> This is most disturbing.
>
> Who is Jay’s boss?
>
> Stewart
>
> > On 10 Mar 2021, at 11:02, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Fred,
> >
> > Someone alerted me to this.  I don't read any IETF lists any more, so
> > needed the nudge:
> >
> > On 2021-03-04 20:15, Fred Baker wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 3:54 PM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well this is a troubling response -- does anyone know if there's
> >>> plans for tools.ietf.org? I would have thought that some thought
> >>> would be given to this and maybe some announcement made to the
> >>> IETF. Did I miss it??? Are we just destined to the whims of bit
> >>> rot?
> >>
> >> I think there was an announcement that Henrik was leaving, and I
> >> certainly knew that there was a conflict between him and DMS/Glen's
> >> work.
> >
> > There has been no conflict between me and AMS/Glen, none at all.  There
> > has been a great deal of conflict with the way the LLC Board and Jay
> > has been running things and what they have put me through, and I'm deeply
> > unhappy with them, but not at all with AMS or Glen.
> >
> > The latest incident was with Jay at the beginning of February, after
> > the end of my contract but at a time when I was still committed to
> > maintaining tools.ietf.org as I have been doing it.  That February
> > encounter did however completely zap my motivation for keeping
> > tools.ietf.org up, and I now just want to be able to get completely
> > away from it.
> >
> > It used to give me great pleasure, thanks to the appreciation of all
> > the good people in the IETF community, but now after the latest Jay
> > incident it only reminds me of the pain of last year.
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> >       Henrik
> >
> >> What might be nice wold be if people could somehow advise the
> >> LLC that they use some specific tool, and would like to see it ported
> >> into the AMS toolset. I would include the ability to subscribe to a
> >> meeting calendar attached to or derived from derived from the IETF
> >> Agenda. I use the "tools style" calendar and subscribe to it - in
> >> large part because I keep all of my calendars in one tool and have
> >> calendars that are unrelated to the IETF, so the ability to subscribe
> >> to a calendar that lists a subset of the meetings at a given IETF
> >> meeting is very useful to me.
> >>
> >> For clarity, I am attaching what my calendar looks like fr the week
> >> of IETF 110, and includes IETF meetings, ICANN's prep week for ICANN
> >> 070, and some work in the ITU, in addition to personal events. If I
> >> have a complaint in that, it is that ICANN and ITU don't seem to see
> >> the value of subscribing to a calendar, but rather send out events -
> >> when then become outdated as time goes on. I would not want IETF to
> >> become deficient in that respect.
> >
>
>