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John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net> Thu, 05 May 2022 21:28 UTC

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From: John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>
To: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
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Subject: Re: [irsg] New document shepherd writeup
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> On May 5, 2022, at 3:53 PM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
> 
> Adding just the contents of the contributor list is sheer randomness.

It may or may not be the Right Thing after considering the balance of practicalities, but it’s not random. A rationale is easy enough: BCP 79 is specifically about “those contributing” [*], and it would be strange indeed to say that listed Contributors oughtn’t to be assumed to have contributed. Since the presumption of contribution is right there in the name, and the number of listed contributors is presumably small [**] and definitely bounded, it seems both reasonable and feasible to poll them. Whether one wants to insist on a reply might be up for debate.

> More importantly, it discourages adding contributors to the contributor list that are no longer actively involved by their own choice.
> Please don’t tell me it should not, I’m talking about what *will* happen.

Ugh. I wish I thought you were wrong. Unintended consequences strike again. (Well, they haven’t struck yet but the scenario is plausible.)

Whether we keep it in the template or not, I do think polling contributors regarding BCP 79 compliance is a good practice, for the reasons I give above.

Thanks,

—John

[*] RFC 8179 §2 (c).
[**] I know someone COULD publish an I-D with an unsettlingly huge number of listed contributors, just to mess with me, but let’s not, shall we?

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