Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announcement list

Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Wed, 29 September 2021 14:08 UTC

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From: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 10:08:11 -0400
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Subject: Re: Proposal: an "important-news" IETF announcement list
To: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>
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> 1.  Announcements sent manually by <various roles> = 284
> 2.  Announcements of new and updated WG charters & WG closures = 44
> 3.  (included in above 44)
> 4.  Announcements of new non-WG mailing lists = 13
> 5.  Announcements of new RFCs = 275
> 6.  IESG and LLC telechat announcements = 39
> 7.  Announcements of document actions = 175
> 8.  Announcements of IESG conflict-review results = 14
> 9.  Last call announcements for I-Ds = 174 (+ 4 for other actions)
> 10. Interim WG meeting announcements = 256
>
> The "important-news" proposal would only retain those under (1) above.

I think that 1, 4, and 6 should all be retained as is (and in the new
list, if it's created).

I think that 2, 5, 7, 8, 9, and 10 should be in a weekly summary, one
single message per week.

I think that when those under 10 are in a pattern (first Tuesdays,
every second Wednesday) there should be one message that says that,
and those messages should be immediately posted to the relevant
working group lists and not wait for the weekly summary.

If we do that, there's probably no need for a new list, but I don't
object to the new list.

Barry