Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption

Sofia Celi <cherenkov@riseup.net> Tue, 14 October 2025 13:44 UTC

Message-ID: <207d8536-d708-417b-8ada-b03bcfca2028@riseup.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 14:43:55 +0100
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption
To: wgchairs@ietf.org
References: <c716beb9-cfa8-4364-8f73-2256ff7f9c6c@sidn.nl> <FA24E274-9C74-4DD3-812F-DFA660AC178C@staff.ietf.org> <086D6187-23E6-472C-9085-54336FC62A2B@episteme.net> <CAA=duU3B9OY2Mt+dnZ33RD3oFV8Brc8JVmoEQpyPx19gja0HJw@mail.gmail.com> <MN2PR17MB4031C871EC497A2AE1CEAA17CDEAA@MN2PR17MB4031.namprd17.prod.outlook.com> <CAA=duU25BsPMBiR7Mr9hyN9QRf2YNQ4O7ErgrSjHuMO10yED-w@mail.gmail.com> <2A28DBBF-8736-497F-B5A0-D0802F99B64C@episteme.net> <8bcec90a-8fba-46ab-8133-a659ec37e041@cs.tcd.ie>
Content-Language: en-GB
From: Sofia Celi <cherenkov@riseup.net>
In-Reply-To: <8bcec90a-8fba-46ab-8133-a659ec37e041@cs.tcd.ie>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID-Hash: ULRAOXX2DNEXHW5INGNPHRPGZ2ULX4MR
Precedence: list
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/wgchairs/WiunIkPzi1LAgYB-N7H93n0GeZg>


On 13/10/2025 23:56, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> 
> 
> On 13/10/2025 23:29, Pete Resnick wrote:
>>
>> I think making "calls for adoption" a required formal part of the 
>> process is conformance-SDO nonsense that we shouldn't be 
>> "adopting" (pun intended) into the IETF. The tool-of-the-day should 
>> not be reason to make something a formal rule.
> 
> +1 - sometimes stuff is totally obvious, other times
> there's severe disagreement about what to do or who
> should do it, but we don't need to always assume the
> latter.

+1 I have also seen individual documents that have already been 
discussed plenty at ML and meetings, and agreed on, then issued a long 
call of adoption, which just creates bureaucracy IMHO.

Thank you,

-- 
Sofía Celi
@claucece
Cryptographic research and implementation at Brave and University of 
Bristol. 🏳️‍🌈
Reach me out at: cherenkov@riseup.net
Website: https://sofiaceli.com/

https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Marco Davids (IETF IMAP)
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Robert Sparks
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Greg Wood
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Pete Resnick
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Andrew G. Malis
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Salz, Rich
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Andrew G. Malis
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Greg Wood
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Pete Resnick
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Stephen Farrell
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Salz, Rich
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Sofia Celi
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Michael Richardson
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Salz, Rich
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Bron Gondwana
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Joel Halpern
Re: [BOFChairs] Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/docum… Tim Chown
Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption Arnt Gulbrandsen