Re: [Ext] Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting survey

[Jay Daley <[e-mail]>]

Sorry for not picking up on this sooner.  We’re discussing this to see what is possible.

Jay

> On 2 Sep 2024, at 22:13, Andrew G. Malis <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> Jay et al,
> 
> It would be great if there was some way to correlate the chat with the presentations. Perhaps an easy way to implement this would be whenever the chair loads a new presentation from the prestored list, that auto-generates a new line in the chat indicating which presentation was loaded. That would really help minute takers to later incorporate the chat comments into the proper place in the minutes. Just a thought.
> 
> Cheers,
> Andy
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 1:17 PM Tim Wicinski <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am terrible at standing in the mic line so I can agree with Michael on this. 
>> 
>> Also, there is an oddity with the Zulip logs.  On the meeting material pages, the link will send you the JSON blob:
>> 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/120/materials/chatlog-120-dnsop-202407251830-00
>> 
>> But I found (willing to bet Robert pointed it out to me) a much nicer formatted version of the chat log: 
>> 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/chatlog-120-dnsop-202407221530/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> tim
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 1:09 PM Michael Richardson <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think that most WGs do a good job of having someone monitor the chat, and
>>> when things do need to get to mic, that happens.  Clarification questions,
>>> which can be answered by other people, are significantly useful.  Not only
>>> does it not take time away from the presenter, but it also might show whether
>>> the document has been reviewed, and by who.
>>> 
>>> It would be useful if Jay could dig further into who complained, and which
>>> WGs for which this was a problem, and how new, middle or ?old? the people are.
>>> 
>>> Secondly, going to the MIC can be a scary process; particularly for some
>>> neurodivegent people.  Asking the question in chat has a much lower bar.
>>> 
>>> Finally, for those who are not physically present, the chat is a useful and
>>> significant way to connect to other participants.  For remote attendees,
>>> arranging windows in the right places is not hard.  I think that for many
>>> people, their "window manager" makes it hard for them to have any windows
>>> which aren't full screen, and frankly...<shuts up here>
>>> I think that it is the people who are trying to run meetecho on their
>>> laptop with the built-in client who are having problems.  The answer is to
>>> use the zulip web client.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Michael Richardson <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
>>>            Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 

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Jay Daley
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