RE: Terms in RFC 2418

"MORTON JR., AL" <acmorton@att.com> Mon, 13 September 2021 19:34 UTC

Return-Path: <acmorton@att.com>
X-Original-To: wgchairs@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: wgchairs@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E503A1735; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 12:34:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.799
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH=0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=att.onmicrosoft.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9aUiUDtR611q; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 12:34:00 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00191d01.pphosted.com [67.231.157.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 013323A174E; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 12:33:59 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from pps.filterd (m0049462.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0049462.ppops.net-00191d01. (8.16.0.43/8.16.0.43) with SMTP id 18DJF59E030342; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 15:33:59 -0400
Received: from alpi154.enaf.aldc.att.com (sbcsmtp6.sbc.com [144.160.229.23]) by m0049462.ppops.net-00191d01. with ESMTP id 3b1a2whj0n-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 13 Sep 2021 15:33:58 -0400
Received: from enaf.aldc.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpi154.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 18DJXuIW024138; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 15:33:58 -0400
Received: from zlp30484.vci.att.com (zlp30484.vci.att.com [135.47.91.179]) by alpi154.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 18DJXlr6023859 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 13 Sep 2021 15:33:49 -0400
Received: from zlp30484.vci.att.com (zlp30484.vci.att.com [127.0.0.1]) by zlp30484.vci.att.com (Service) with ESMTP id 9C15C4009E65; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 19:33:47 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from GAALPA1MSGED2BA.ITServices.sbc.com (unknown [135.50.89.126]) by zlp30484.vci.att.com (Service) with ESMTP id 412614009E66; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 19:33:47 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from GAALPA1MSGEX1AD.ITServices.sbc.com (135.50.89.99) by GAALPA1MSGED2BA.ITServices.sbc.com (135.50.89.126) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2308.14; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 15:33:41 -0400
Received: from GAALPA1MSGETA02.tmg.ad.att.com (144.160.249.124) by GAALPA1MSGEX1AD.ITServices.sbc.com (135.50.89.99) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2308.14 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 15:33:41 -0400
Received: from NAM10-DM6-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (104.47.58.109) by edgeal2.exch.att.com (144.160.249.124) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.1.2308.14; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 15:33:16 -0400
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=MItyHNxkQIZoAk78Bm7rAQlqhuIXvCzNdMl/b/xNXGpJ4EeBdY4szjmj5AeHMb9quaNiwBVtnK7kjcrBDF0KgXhjkWbIasnhUmN3vYNrCcvAYE+B8sb9vf9tZz5EmevI8x+RFbpTBqCkdm69rj1PNWH302fUvA/DXFcWeIdzncSVCPXPSW90zSV9ByGyvex+TbffqxDXej+WW5FebZ+x6Ng9yaO8DINFYFvfgej+RMz9V/hDLBk1PSFhkHexemHjDmeRQJQPONmqrMsOtFvuz2mP9LXusaJXeILENsFR8J41DRFE606KlTDx3hbqjTRCjDi/9vfCu0lGQ+GUDC671A==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=RwAspkaiavD7AfX90hfn8nqhSBsTnkDvE9u0iX4sHdU=; b=UpQMKrCWrIaaYVYr+/6a4h3he4vnKnPBj7WBLpRT0CiKdqcfbWSgVAcrYLnwBx8WSTPGumPz4hpJKT5QuzMSNhlxRhzvdB7/9qRaLvCcqaJV1Lw6BpukyERnXQvTDtsOYgt9Rgv/csNjYRsoVjJK5cAEd8cfN/B/ckRemhqoOBucjdILn2lN1AvtfHvrHwZgF9gdqhYoKvfqOF6aV1mxdAJh7hxX7I2ijnH/1ntkpDvqST1nMltKZ0tOiMn3vYreaq/Yo53Tt4L1HaH46zXw06B/Fy73JQelXEDQKkZizfxhst99/InRW+COsM6f2VIUVoryBXmrl1XF0QBuT5aWpQ==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=att.com; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=att.com; dkim=pass header.d=att.com; arc=none
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector2-att-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=RwAspkaiavD7AfX90hfn8nqhSBsTnkDvE9u0iX4sHdU=; b=sezeygSFvJIPYWc+fa/s/du08PiZHJ7xefIo9Ng91akn7qFOtZYCYrFYwE/EDl73y+d8GUccbbrlwUCEiKe4F2wORIYc0HynYP9ly7NzjjxbHD0lntukQnUx0Ik3J6eFOCcMdQ1H5Ym2cP8DLJkSiNam0MxGbS4+VhFHS4YDooI=
Received: from SJ0PR02MB7853.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:a03:32e::8) by SJ0PR02MB7469.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:a03:293::16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.4500.14; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 19:33:15 +0000
Received: from SJ0PR02MB7853.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::44ce:3ad7:3c38:f4d3]) by SJ0PR02MB7853.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::44ce:3ad7:3c38:f4d3%6]) with mapi id 15.20.4500.019; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 19:33:15 +0000
From: "MORTON JR., AL" <acmorton@att.com>
To: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, 'WG Chairs' <wgchairs@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: Terms in RFC 2418
Thread-Topic: Terms in RFC 2418
Thread-Index: AQHXqNTzKQR5brUr2UOA+UxOM12xiKuiWOhQ
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 19:33:15 +0000
Message-ID: <SJ0PR02MB7853B671B23603D4A7873630D3D99@SJ0PR02MB7853.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
References: <A11B9A3B-E30D-416C-AC1A-4E2EB046C003@akamai.com>
In-Reply-To: <A11B9A3B-E30D-416C-AC1A-4E2EB046C003@akamai.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
authentication-results: dmarc.ietf.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;dmarc.ietf.org; dmarc=none action=none header.from=att.com;
x-ms-publictraffictype: Email
x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: b3928242-a62c-40cf-448a-08d976ed550c
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: SJ0PR02MB7469:
x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: <SJ0PR02MB746970799138CC7160F6FD5CD3D99@SJ0PR02MB7469.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:8882;
x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1
x-ms-exchange-antispam-relay: 0
x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: 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
x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:1; SRV:; IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:SJ0PR02MB7853.namprd02.prod.outlook.com; PTR:; CAT:NONE; SFS:(4636009)(376002)(346002)(396003)(136003)(366004)(39860400002)(478600001)(83380400001)(122000001)(9686003)(5660300002)(7696005)(9326002)(38070700005)(26005)(186003)(66446008)(4744005)(71200400001)(38100700002)(166002)(966005)(55016002)(8676002)(82202003)(2906002)(7116003)(52536014)(6506007)(53546011)(66556008)(110136005)(316002)(66476007)(8936002)(66946007)(76116006)(33656002)(86362001)(64756008)(579004); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101;
x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata-chunkcount: 1
x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata-0: 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
x-ms-exchange-transport-forked: True
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_SJ0PR02MB7853B671B23603D4A7873630D3D99SJ0PR02MB7853namp_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SJ0PR02MB7853.namprd02.prod.outlook.com
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: b3928242-a62c-40cf-448a-08d976ed550c
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 13 Sep 2021 19:33:15.4585 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: e741d71c-c6b6-47b0-803c-0f3b32b07556
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: xlF3UO4a/voR4f6aQB8qkakD3UU+kfW34Cb0XoJEt4njeoligTs+l52rlEiDqGOb
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SJ0PR02MB7469
X-OriginatorOrg: att.com
X-TM-SNTS-SMTP: 1B17F421753F320151F2F3A3F48B501FB33D946FEFB959561A6049DF1A51E4CD2
X-Proofpoint-GUID: 7rjT2O_7ZWBYn5s9xrFtq_7ieKCvnoPH
X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: 7rjT2O_7ZWBYn5s9xrFtq_7ieKCvnoPH
X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.391, 18.0.790 definitions=2021-09-13_09:2021-09-09, 2021-09-13 signatures=0
X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_policy_notspam policy=outbound_policy score=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 bulkscore=0 priorityscore=1501 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 adultscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2109030001 definitions=main-2109130116
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/wgchairs/YLZa0xR_QoxaO6gXXcawmIRokUQ>
X-BeenThere: wgchairs@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Working Group Chairs <wgchairs.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/wgchairs>, <mailto:wgchairs-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/wgchairs/>
List-Post: <mailto:wgchairs@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:wgchairs-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wgchairs>, <mailto:wgchairs-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 19:34:14 -0000

Hi Rich,

It seems to me there was a WG I followed where you were the Security Advisor, or something like that title.
Maybe there was a particular set of drafts on which you were asked to provide advice during development.  It’s the only time I remember something like a WG consultant, below.  It may have been more than a decade ago...

Al

From: WGChairs <wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Salz, Rich
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 3:24 PM
To: 'WG Chairs' <wgchairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Terms in RFC 2418

Hey there peers.

I was looking at RFC 2418 and I have some questions. If you know of any working groups that have deployed a “Working Group Consultant”[1]
Or a “WG Facilitator” [2] in the past decade, please let me know.

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2418#section-6.6<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2418*section-6.6__;Iw!!BhdT!y8WaHFtoams6h8qegtI66lAnda2d91IMZM9NKL6QBYArXUKRUyenpgsRdkbr6aE$>
[2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2418#section-6.4<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2418*section-6.4__;Iw!!BhdT!y8WaHFtoams6h8qegtI66lAnda2d91IMZM9NKL6QBYArXUKRUyenpgsRYh_5Vsg$>