Re: System generated chat messages during WG sessions

["Andrew G. Malis" <[e-mail]>]

Toerless,

If the autogenerated messages are in the chat and you don't like them, it's
really easy to run the chat through a text filter to get rid of them.

Cheers,
Andy


On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 3:00 PM Toerless Eckert <[e-mail]> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 02:28:59PM -0400, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> > Toerless,
> >
> > There are people that like to read the chat, or incorporate the chat into
> > the minutes, without having to watch the entire video.
>
> That's fine. Nothing i proposed argues against it. I just don't want the
> chat to be cluttered
> with information about the actual primary meeting track - especially
> because i do not want
> to kill off asynchronous chat discuss that's explicitly NOT in-sync with
> th primary WG
> track.
>
> Cheers
>     Toerless
>
> > Cheers,
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 1:58 PM Toerless Eckert <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > > My 22cents:
> > >
> > > I would not like for the chat to be scattered by this metadata because
> we
> > > should already
> > > have an actual metadata stream in the videos: the CC (close caption
> > > track). AFAIK, all
> > > IETF recordings on youtube have it. Seemingly some are done
> manual/better,
> > > most are
> > > automatic (suck rocks - especially with non native speakers).
> > >
> > > Anyhow: What the IETF tooling team seemingly does not do right is to
> > > enable the youtube
> > > transcription feature from this CC track. When i go to most other
> > > (non-IETF) videos
> > > with CC, then i can click on "Show Transcript" at the bottom of the
> > > youtube description.
> > > This will then pop up the transcript - and then you can scroll/search
> and
> > > jump to specific
> > > transcript points.
> > >
> > > Seems obvious to me, that we would want any section markers like
> > > slides/presentations/speakers
> > > on the microphone to be in this transcription track.
> > >
> > > Of course: If youtube allows multiple tracks, then it would be fine to
> > > also include the
> > > chat as a secondary caption track. But let's not consider it to be a
> > > primary track
> > > for the session recording.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >     Toerless
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 12:42:37PM +0100, Jay Daley wrote:
> > > > Starting a new thread on this.
> > > >
> > > > Meetecho have confirmed that having the system generate chat
> messages is
> > > pretty straightforward so I want to ask what action points are the most
> > > useful for such a message, assuming we don’t want too many such
> messages as
> > > that will clutter the chat.
> > > >
> > > > So far we have:
> > > >
> > > > - When a new presentation is started so that it contextualises the
> chat
> > > messages after that.
> > > >
> > > > The only other one I can see might be useful is:
> > > >
> > > > - When a poll is initiated and/or closed, perhaps with the result
> copied
> > > to the chat.
> > > >
> > > > Yes/no? and any others?
> > > >
> > > > Jay
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jay Daley
> > > > IETF Executive Director
> > > > [e-mail]
> > >
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