Re: PSA: Automatic Minutes Generation

Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Wed, 05 November 2025 17:17 UTC

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On 11/5/25 11:40 AM, Peter Thomassen wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> On 11/5/25 16:45, Robert Sparks wrote:
>>> Does the datatracker also track the result of shows of hands?
>>
>> Yes - this is gathgered by meetecho and reported to the datatracker 
>> and then shows in the "polls" section of the meeting materials.
>
> How to find this?

What you're wanting to find is 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/polls-122-deleg-202503181700/

The path to finding it is to look at the meetings tab for the group 
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/deleg/meetings/) go to the meeting 
you are interested in, and then look at the materials page in the 
"Chatlogs and Polls" section.

RjS


>
> For example, the DELEG session at IETF 122 had a show of hands, which 
> is recorded in the minutes. I recall that the Meetecho feature was 
> used, but I don't see a "pools" section when I click "Show meeting 
> materials" on the agenda.
>
> Thanks,
> Peter