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RE: PSA: Automatic Minutes Generation

"Gunter van de Velde (Nokia)" <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com> Tue, 04 November 2025 15:11 UTC

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From: "Gunter van de Velde (Nokia)" <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>
To: Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com>, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: PSA: Automatic Minutes Generation
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I suspect the Q was if the AI generated output can be kept at the same location but slightly updated by the chairs to avoid a too big discrepancy between these minutes and the IETF uploaded minutes.

Btw, this tool looks great. Thanks

G/
(wearing no hats)

-----Original Message-----
From: Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2025 9:34 AM
To: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>; Working Group Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: PSA: Automatic Minutes Generation


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Hi Rifaat,
  I think the intent is that the chairs will take this text as the input, make the necessary updates/changes and upload them into the official minutes.

Regards
Suresh

> On Nov 4, 2025, at 9:17 AM, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ekr,
>
> This looks great!
> Is there a way for the WG chairs to make updates/changes to these minutes?
>
> Regards,
>  Rifaat
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2025 at 3:32 PM Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> Update:
> I am generating live-ish minutes for IETF 124 at:
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fietf
> minutes.org%2Fminutes%2Fietf124%2Findex.html&data=05%7C02%7Cgunter.van
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>
> It takes some time for Meetecho to produce the transcripts, so they're 
> not available right after the meeting, but as a reference point Monday 
> Session I is now available.
>
> -Ekr
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 7:02 PM Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> Hi Chairs,
>
> Like many of you, I've long been unsatisfied with the situation around 
> IETF minute taking, in which we conscript someone into taking minutes, 
> thus preventing them from fully participating, and often with mediocre 
> results.
>
> In an attempt to partly address this situation, I've put together an 
> automatic minutes generator at 
> (https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fiet
> fminutes.org%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cgunter.van_de_velde%40nokia.com%7C85dba
> 36496204f0e49c908de1baf51cd%7C5d4717519675428d917b70f44f9630b0%7C0%7C0
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> 3D&reserved=0). The site takes as input the Meetecho transcript and 
> produces AI-generated minutes. I've gone back and made minutes through 
> IETF 112 (November
> 2021) and I plan to produce minutes for IETF 124 (Montreal) once 
> transcripts are available, shortly after the meeting.
>
> Hopefully others will find this useful.
>
> -Ekr
>
> P.S. I'm not a WG chair, so you should make sure to keep me on CC if 
> you want a response.

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