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Re: Shepherd writeup - Question 18 on normative references and advancement

Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> Sun, 22 May 2022 18:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: Shepherd writeup - Question 18 on normative references and advancement
Date: Sun, 22 May 2022 21:54:54 +0300
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In this context, “not ready for advancement” means “not ready to be submitted to the IESG for publication”.  

If it has passed the IESG and is in the RFC Editor’s queue, it’s done. You can treat it as if it’s already an RFC.

Problem documents would be documents that have been abandoned, documents with no current authors/editors, that kind of thing.

Yoav

> On 22 May 2022, at 18:27, Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello WG chairs,
> 
> Reviewing again the updated shepherd writeup template[1], I'm left with an ambiguous understanding of what Question 18 is trying to convey.
> 
> > 18. Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If they exist, what is the plan for their completion?
> 
> What does advancement mean here? For instance, if the document being shepherded has a normative reference to a document that is in the RFC editor queue, is that "not ready for advancement"? What if there was a reference to a document in AUTH48, where all authors had approved it? 
> 
> Taking a different perspective, if the shepherded doc has a normative reference to a non-IETF doc, what does "advancement" mean there?
> 
> Cheers,
> Lucas
> 
> [1] - https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/qa-style-writeup-template <https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/qa-style-writeup-template>

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