Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting survey

Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> Mon, 02 September 2024 19:17 UTC

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Just a few years ago, I had a teacher who would throw erasers at us for 
"passing notes in class" (More than a few of us walked out of a 
classroom with chalked up sweaters; he had great aim).  The more polite 
version of this is for the chair to say, “Let's have one meeting, 
please."  But it may also be a signal that a topic needs more discussion 
time, as some may feel that they can't get their views across in the 
allotted time.

Eliot

On 02.09.2024 20:50, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Sep 2024, Kathleen Moriarty wrote:
>
>> The summary is helpful. I'm going to counter the first point, the 
>> chat facilitates the flow of a meeting, enabling a level of feedback 
>> that is not
>> appropriate for the Mic line, yet helpful in terms of another layer 
>> of feedback. Many contribute to it knowing that some will catch up 
>> later and
>> that is fine.
>
> However, those engaged in the chat are missing what the meeting has
> moved on to. So while it is not as distracting as people talking or
> whispering, I think it is still not often a net positive to the meeting.
> Making a note, and then emailing the list afterwards with a non time
> constrained message would likely be better for everyone.
>
> That said, the chat is very tempting to plomp some opinion/data on,
> and I'm guilty of it myself as well.
>
> Paul
>