Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting survey

[Jon Geater <[e-mail]>]

Watching all the responses so far I think I agree with all of them in some way, and would join Kathleen, Michael and others in pushing back against the original implied complaints.

Having +1s, links, follow-ups etc in chat is, IMO, _incredibly_ efficient compared to everyone wanting their say and ‘me too’ and clarification at the microphone.

Capturing this in minutes, reflecting it during the meeting, and monitoring it for distraction as has been said are key responsibilities of chairs but I would not be in favour of making big changes to the chat functionality.

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Jon Geater
Chief Product & Technology Officer, DataTrails

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From: Eliot Lear <[e-mail]>
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 8:18 PM
To: Paul Wouters <[e-mail]>; Kathleen Moriarty <[e-mail]>
Cc: wgchairs <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting survey


Just a few years ago, I had a teacher who would throw erasers at us for "passing notes in class" (More than a few of us walked out of a classroom with chalked up sweaters; he had great aim).  The more polite version of this is for the chair to say, “Let's have one meeting, please."  But it may also be a signal that a topic needs more discussion time, as some may feel that they can't get their views across in the allotted time.

Eliot

On 02.09.2024 20:50, Paul Wouters wrote:
On Mon, 2 Sep 2024, Kathleen Moriarty wrote:

The summary is helpful. I'm going to counter the first point, the chat facilitates the flow of a meeting, enabling a level of feedback that is not
appropriate for the Mic line, yet helpful in terms of another layer of feedback. Many contribute to it knowing that some will catch up later and
that is fine.

However, those engaged in the chat are missing what the meeting has
moved on to. So while it is not as distracting as people talking or
whispering, I think it is still not often a net positive to the meeting.
Making a note, and then emailing the list afterwards with a non time
constrained message would likely be better for everyone.

That said, the chat is very tempting to plomp some opinion/data on,
and I'm guilty of it myself as well.

Paul