Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org? {35440727}

[Robert Sparks <[e-mail]>]

On 3/5/21 2:03 PM, Leslie Daigle wrote:
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> On 5 Mar 2021, at 9:28, Robert Sparks wrote:
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>     On 3/4/21 11:58 PM, Luigi Iannone wrote:
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>             On 4 Mar 2021, at 20:15, Fred Baker
>             <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>                 On Mar 3, 2021, at 3:54 PM, Lou Berger
>                 <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>                 Well this is a troubling response -- does anyone know
>                 if there's plans for tools.ietf.org? I would have
>                 thought that some thought would be given to this and
>                 maybe some announcement made to the IETF. Did I miss
>                 it??? Are we just destined to the whims of bit rot?
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>             I think there was an announcement that Henrik was leaving,
>             and I certainly knew that there was a conflict between him
>             and DMS/Glen's work. What might be nice wold be if people
>             could somehow advise the LLC that they use some specific
>             tool, and would like to see it ported into the AMS
>             toolset. I would include the ability to subscribe to a
>             meeting calendar attached to or derived from derived from
>             the IETF Agenda. I use the "tools style" calendar and
>             subscribe to it - in large part because I keep all of my
>             calendars in one tool and have calendars that are
>             unrelated to the IETF, so the ability to subscribe to a
>             calendar that lists a subset of the meetings at a given
>             IETF meeting is very useful to me.
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>         + 1
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>         I also use the tools style calendar, is a very nice feature
>         that should be Included in the main IETF agenda on the
>         datatracker.
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>     Luigi -
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>     I think it is already available at the datatracker.
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>     I sent an example to Fred on list. Did it help you?
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> Speaking only for myself — it helps me, insofar as I appreciate having 
> something I can put in my calendar.
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> Here’s what I miss from the tools-style agenda/calendar:
> . picking items based on where they are in the agenda, not just by name
>
If you're ok subscribing to lots of little calander feeds, you can use 
the calendar icon at the end of each row that you are interested in on

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/agenda

(Am I understanding the use case?)

> . subscribing to the calendar, so that schedule changes are reflected 
> in my calendar.
>
The button on the page is a https link, so if you click it it will 
download. You can copy the link location and subscribe to it with your 
calendar handler.

For some other pages, we've been experimenting with providing webcal: 
links (which browsers usually route to calendar handlers in a way that 
they subscribe rather than just pull a single snapshot). It would crowd 
this page even more to do so on each row, but maybe it's needed.

> Leslie.
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>     In addition to that example, please note the individual calendar
>     icons at, e.g. https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/lisp/meetings/
>     <https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/lisp/meetings/> (or choose
>     some other group to look at since lisp cancelled for 110).
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>     RjS
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>         Ciao
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>         L.
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>             For clarity, I am attaching what my calendar looks like fr
>             the week of IETF 110, and includes IETF meetings, ICANN's
>             prep week for ICANN 070, and some work in the ITU, in
>             addition to personal events. If I have a complaint in
>             that, it is that ICANN and ITU don't seem to see the value
>             of subscribing to a calendar, but rather send out events -
>             when then become outdated as time goes on. I would not
>             want IETF to become deficient in that respect.
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>             <Calendar — Week — 3-7-21 to 3-13-21.pdf>
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> -- 
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> Leslie Daigle
> Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises
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