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Re: Pre-BoF documents and mailing lists

"Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> Wed, 07 August 2019 18:03 UTC

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From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2019 14:03:19 -0400
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Subject: Re: Pre-BoF documents and mailing lists
To: Jim Fenton <fenton@bluepopcorn.net>
Cc: Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>, "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>, WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
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On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:37 PM Jim Fenton <fenton@bluepopcorn.net> wrote:

> A number of years ago, the DKIM WG used an instance of rt (rt.psg.com)
> to track issues on documents. rt.psg.com isn't around any more. I think
> we did a fairly good job of keeping the discussion on the mailing list,
> but we have lost some of the record, and everything wasn't on the
> mailing list.
>
> I'm not sure if this is an argument for or against the current and
> anticipated use of GitHub as an issue tracker, but it seems like
> relevant history.
>

Another argument (AFAIC) for keeping WG decisions and issue tracking on
IETF-maintained lists or servers, or at the very least mirroring any
off-list discussion, issue tracking, or document updates on the WG list as
well.

More seriously, github.com is a DDOS and other bad actor magnet, and also
subject to (perhaps ruinous, at the whim of the courts) lawsuits or
(perhaps ruinous, at the whim of Congress) legislation. And even if
Microsoft is the current owner and has deep pockets, there's no guarantee
that will continue, or that they will continue to operate it with a light
touch.

Cheers,
Andy

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