Re: https://chairs.ietf.org/documents/i-d-adoption

[Bron Gondwana <[e-mail]>]

I have had an almost zero rate of "adoption call failed" in my working groups - the only time I've proposed something and it hasn't been adopted was when the authors changed their mind and retracted the adoption request!

But I've always done a 2 week call because that's how I cargo-cult learned to do it.

I'd be happy to discuss a more flexible adoption process where for working groups which don't have any issues with too many drafts being proposed or contentious topics coming up.  I'd probably have used that in the past if I'd known it was OK to say "yeah, we all agreed in the in-person call and this seems unlikely to be contentious, let's just adopt it and we can kill it if we discover it's a bad idea during later discussion".  High trust groups would manage that just balance fine.

Bron.

On Tue, Oct 14, 2025, at 11:24, Salz, Rich wrote:
>  • I strongly recommend that WG chairs do adoption calls like:
>  •   "Chairs see support for working on foo-bar.03.  We plan to adopt it.
>  •   Please post objections by YYYY-MM-DD"
> 
> It seems to me that you should only do that if you’re *really* sure about consensus because otherwise you’ll have to repeat the process.
> 
> *Attachments:*
>  • smime.p7s

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