Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting survey

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Mon, 02 September 2024 21:19 UTC

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From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
To: Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch>, wgchairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Feedback from IETF 120 Vancouver post-meeting survey
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Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> wrote:
    > with chalked up sweaters; he had great aim).  The more polite version of this
    > is for the chair to say, “Let's have one meeting, please."  But it may also
    > be a signal that a topic needs more discussion time, as some may feel that
    > they can't get their views across in the allotted time.

different neuro-types have different interaction modes.
For those of us who communicate via info-dumps, no amount of "discussion"
time will be helpful.  And my experience "reading" URLs spoken at the MIC
into my browser is pretty poor.

Not only is it better than whispers and side-conversations, but given remote
people, using the chat is more inclusive of remote people, non-native english
speakers.

Yes, some people might get distracted and not realize the meeting has moved
on. That's fine.  We're adults.

{I used to read other books in elementary school class. Teachers initially
hated it, and they made me do only one thing: pay attention to them, so I
did.  I asked questions.  Caught errors.
Like what is sqrt(-1) in grade 5, or what exactly is a "regular" verb, and
why are they called regular (french) verbs when there were more irregular verbs than
regular verbs, and the pattern was stronger.
The teacher usually wished I hasn't asked that question at that point,
because it confused the neuro-typical students.
The other few atypical students (all bored) would then join in, and the
teacher's lesson plan was dead. Eventually, those teachers asked me to stop
paying attention, and go back to reading my train magazines.  So, side
conversations are exactly what I use in order to pay attention. }

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