Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org? {35440727}
Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> Wed, 10 March 2021 11:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org? {35440727}
From: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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This is most disturbing. Who is Jay’s boss? Stewart > On 10 Mar 2021, at 11:02, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> wrote: > > Hi Fred, > > Someone alerted me to this. I don't read any IETF lists any more, so > needed the nudge: > > On 2021-03-04 20:15, Fred Baker wrote: >> >> >>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 3:54 PM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote: >>> >>> Well this is a troubling response -- does anyone know if there's >>> plans for tools.ietf.org? I would have thought that some thought >>> would be given to this and maybe some announcement made to the >>> IETF. Did I miss it??? Are we just destined to the whims of bit >>> rot? >> >> I think there was an announcement that Henrik was leaving, and I >> certainly knew that there was a conflict between him and DMS/Glen's >> work. > > There has been no conflict between me and AMS/Glen, none at all. There > has been a great deal of conflict with the way the LLC Board and Jay > has been running things and what they have put me through, and I'm deeply > unhappy with them, but not at all with AMS or Glen. > > The latest incident was with Jay at the beginning of February, after > the end of my contract but at a time when I was still committed to > maintaining tools.ietf.org as I have been doing it. That February > encounter did however completely zap my motivation for keeping > tools.ietf.org up, and I now just want to be able to get completely > away from it. > > It used to give me great pleasure, thanks to the appreciation of all > the good people in the IETF community, but now after the latest Jay > incident it only reminds me of the pain of last year. > > > Best regards, > > Henrik > >> What might be nice wold be if people could somehow advise the >> LLC that they use some specific tool, and would like to see it ported >> into the AMS toolset. I would include the ability to subscribe to a >> meeting calendar attached to or derived from derived from the IETF >> Agenda. I use the "tools style" calendar and subscribe to it - in >> large part because I keep all of my calendars in one tool and have >> calendars that are unrelated to the IETF, so the ability to subscribe >> to a calendar that lists a subset of the meetings at a given IETF >> meeting is very useful to me. >> >> For clarity, I am attaching what my calendar looks like fr the week >> of IETF 110, and includes IETF meetings, ICANN's prep week for ICANN >> 070, and some work in the ITU, in addition to personal events. If I >> have a complaint in that, it is that ICANN and ITU don't seem to see >> the value of subscribing to a calendar, but rather send out events - >> when then become outdated as time goes on. I would not want IETF to >> become deficient in that respect. >
- Fwd: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org… Lou Berger
- Re: Fwd: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf… Paul Wouters
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Jay Daley
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [irsg] problem with recent drafts on tools.ie… Carsten Bormann
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Bob Hinden
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Martin Duke
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Stewart Bryant
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Fred Baker
- Calendar subscriptions (was Re: problem with rece… Robert Sparks
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Livingood, Jason
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Livingood, Jason
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Alexa Morris
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Jay Daley
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Eliot Lear
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Glen
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Margaret Cullen
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Luigi Iannone
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [irsg] problem with recent drafts on tools.ie… Carsten Bormann
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Robert Sparks
- Re: [irsg] problem with recent drafts on tools.ie… Robert Sparks
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Leslie Daigle
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Robert Sparks
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Bob Hinden
- Re: Calendar subscriptions (was Re: problem with … Fred Baker
- Re: [irsg] problem with recent drafts on tools.ie… Lars Eggert
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Leslie Daigle
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Stewart Bryant
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… David Noveck
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Jay Daley
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Fred Baker
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Fred Baker